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	<title>Comments on: Is Homophobia Associated With Homosexual Desire?</title>
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		<title>By: Lady Lucie</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2011/12/is-homophobia-associated-with-homosexual-desire.html/comment-page-1#comment-18717</link>
		<dc:creator>Lady Lucie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this tweet from @coyotetoo last week:
&quot;Homophobia: the fear that gay men will treat you the way you treat women.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this tweet from @coyotetoo last week:<br />
&#8220;Homophobia: the fear that gay men will treat you the way you treat women.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pzed, I wonder if that finding might tie into idea that homophobia mutilates homophobic men&#039;s inner lives because it makes intimacy with other men terrifying and prohibited. Niobe Way&#039;s new book &quot;Deep Secrets: Boys&#039; Friendships and the Crisis of Connection&quot; describes the pain and depression of late-adolescent boys if they feel they have to sacrifice either their close male friendships or their hetero masculinity.

(There was a feature in the NYTimes about her last September: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/fashion/seeking-to-help-boys-keep-their-friends.html?_r=1.)

It&#039;s been a theme in queer theory for a while: in Eve Sedgwick&#039;s first major book &quot;Between Men,&quot; for example, or in George Chauncey&#039;s argument not that Lincoln was gay, but that many more relationships, erotic &amp; not erotic, were available for men -- like Lincoln&#039;s romantic friendship with Joshua Speed -- before homophobia was so firmly established in the US. 

So I wonder if part of the anger homophobic men reported in that study when they looked at pictures of non-sexual intimacy between men has something to do with their internal prohibition against exactly that. Like, hating that other men get to have that intimacy, or hating that it&#039;s forbidden to them, or hating how much they want it &amp; how scared that makes them feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pzed, I wonder if that finding might tie into idea that homophobia mutilates homophobic men&#8217;s inner lives because it makes intimacy with other men terrifying and prohibited. Niobe Way&#8217;s new book &#8220;Deep Secrets: Boys&#8217; Friendships and the Crisis of Connection&#8221; describes the pain and depression of late-adolescent boys if they feel they have to sacrifice either their close male friendships or their hetero masculinity.</p>
<p>(There was a feature in the NYTimes about her last September: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/fashion/seeking-to-help-boys-keep-their-friends.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/fashion/seeking-to-help-boys-keep-their-friends.html?_r=1</a>.)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a theme in queer theory for a while: in Eve Sedgwick&#8217;s first major book &#8220;Between Men,&#8221; for example, or in George Chauncey&#8217;s argument not that Lincoln was gay, but that many more relationships, erotic &amp; not erotic, were available for men &#8212; like Lincoln&#8217;s romantic friendship with Joshua Speed &#8212; before homophobia was so firmly established in the US. </p>
<p>So I wonder if part of the anger homophobic men reported in that study when they looked at pictures of non-sexual intimacy between men has something to do with their internal prohibition against exactly that. Like, hating that other men get to have that intimacy, or hating that it&#8217;s forbidden to them, or hating how much they want it &amp; how scared that makes them feel.</p>
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		<title>By: pzed</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2011/12/is-homophobia-associated-with-homosexual-desire.html/comment-page-1#comment-18626</link>
		<dc:creator>pzed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 15:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The paper is a little old, but I checked Web of Science to see if it&#039;s had any impact. It has been cited 77 times, which is actually quite good, and many of those citations are very recent including a number within the last year. On article that cites this one and that might interest you is &quot;Heterosexual Men&#039;s Anger in Response to Male Homosexuality: Effects of Erotic and Non-Erotic Depictions of Male-Male Intimacy and Sexual Prejudice&quot;, by Hudepohl Adam D.; Parrott Dominic J.; and Zeichner Amos (Journal of Homosexuality 57.8, 2010 DOI: 10.1080/00918369.2010.503505). Sadly, Hudepohl et al. do not discuss penile cuffs. But they do say this:

&quot;The finding that sexually prejudiced men reported comparably large increases in anger regardless of the type of male-male stimulus video used (i.e., sexual, nonsexual) has interesting but unclear theoretical implications. Men appear to be angered by witnessing male-male sexual activity regardless of their level of sexual prejudice, but only those who report high levels of sexual prejudice are angered by non-erotic male-male relationship behavior. Perhaps men who report high levels of sexual prejudice imagine sexual contact between two male partners when they witness them involved in common and publicly seen relationship behaviors. This speculation would be in keeping with previous research on sexually prejudiced men’s experience of sexual arousal in response to male homosexuality (Adams, Wright, &amp; Lohr, 1996).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The paper is a little old, but I checked Web of Science to see if it&#8217;s had any impact. It has been cited 77 times, which is actually quite good, and many of those citations are very recent including a number within the last year. On article that cites this one and that might interest you is &#8220;Heterosexual Men&#8217;s Anger in Response to Male Homosexuality: Effects of Erotic and Non-Erotic Depictions of Male-Male Intimacy and Sexual Prejudice&#8221;, by Hudepohl Adam D.; Parrott Dominic J.; and Zeichner Amos (Journal of Homosexuality 57.8, 2010 DOI: 10.1080/00918369.2010.503505). Sadly, Hudepohl et al. do not discuss penile cuffs. But they do say this:</p>
<p>&#8220;The finding that sexually prejudiced men reported comparably large increases in anger regardless of the type of male-male stimulus video used (i.e., sexual, nonsexual) has interesting but unclear theoretical implications. Men appear to be angered by witnessing male-male sexual activity regardless of their level of sexual prejudice, but only those who report high levels of sexual prejudice are angered by non-erotic male-male relationship behavior. Perhaps men who report high levels of sexual prejudice imagine sexual contact between two male partners when they witness them involved in common and publicly seen relationship behaviors. This speculation would be in keeping with previous research on sexually prejudiced men’s experience of sexual arousal in response to male homosexuality (Adams, Wright, &amp; Lohr, 1996).&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: criolle johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>criolle johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care WHY they wanna do it.  NOBODY is going to wrap an electronic or electric or wired sleeve of any kind around my crotch!  No, Nay, Negative, Na-ah, Ain&#039;t gonna happen.
I&#039;m still upset about electrically flushed toilets. Those things have electricity at the top and and water (a ground) at the bottom end. I&#039;m supposed to put my &quot;best friend&quot; in between the two of those? In a circuit diagram, that&#039;s called a FUSE!  The wired sleeve is essentially the same diagram.
No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care WHY they wanna do it.  NOBODY is going to wrap an electronic or electric or wired sleeve of any kind around my crotch!  No, Nay, Negative, Na-ah, Ain&#8217;t gonna happen.<br />
I&#8217;m still upset about electrically flushed toilets. Those things have electricity at the top and and water (a ground) at the bottom end. I&#8217;m supposed to put my &#8220;best friend&#8221; in between the two of those? In a circuit diagram, that&#8217;s called a FUSE!  The wired sleeve is essentially the same diagram.<br />
No.</p>
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		<title>By: ScytheNoire</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScytheNoire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 22:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes it is. If you want evidence, just look at all the Republicans who hate on homosexuals and then are caught in a homosexual relationship. It&#039;s all about fear of accepting who you are. They are just too small-minded and emotionally stunted to accept their true feelings. So they lash out against that which they fear, that which they truly are, instead of accepting and embracing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes it is. If you want evidence, just look at all the Republicans who hate on homosexuals and then are caught in a homosexual relationship. It&#8217;s all about fear of accepting who you are. They are just too small-minded and emotionally stunted to accept their true feelings. So they lash out against that which they fear, that which they truly are, instead of accepting and embracing it.</p>
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