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	<title>Comments on: Sex News: Sex Work Economics, Boner Control, House of Holes, Internet Snooping Bill Disaster</title>
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		<title>By: Glynnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that I, too, am interested in hearing if sex workers believe this is an accurate characterization of their work. This is all the most basic econ theory possible, and whether it reflects a given market varies a lot, since the vast majority of markets are not perfect competition or the assumptions are too simplifying (I would not, for example, really think that happy ending massages and mistresses are really appropriate to compare - they seem to work in totally different markets, in my opinion, but I was just trying to expand on the theory provided).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that I, too, am interested in hearing if sex workers believe this is an accurate characterization of their work. This is all the most basic econ theory possible, and whether it reflects a given market varies a lot, since the vast majority of markets are not perfect competition or the assumptions are too simplifying (I would not, for example, really think that happy ending massages and mistresses are really appropriate to compare &#8211; they seem to work in totally different markets, in my opinion, but I was just trying to expand on the theory provided).</p>
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		<title>By: Glynnis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynnis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dug out my microeconomics notes for this. Incidentally, I tried to write a paper in undergrad on the economics of prostitution and was shocked at how little it was studied: I literally found one vague economic (as opposed to anthropological) source, and it had some bullshit title like &quot;the economics of sin.&quot; Fuck that. The Freakonomics guys have broken some unique ground in actually discussing sex markets.

So the model presented is the most simple &quot;this is what a market in perfect competition&quot; looks like, which makes a number of simplifying assumptions. Anyone who has taken Econ 101 will be familiar, but the &quot;X&quot; shape of the market is formed by the intersection of the supply and demand &quot;curves,&quot; a visualization we use to represent what all suppliers and consumers will sell/buy at various prices and quantities. The middle of the X is &quot;market equilibrium,&quot; where above that price producers would be willing to sell but consumers don&#039;t want to buy, and below producers suffer shortages because consumers buy them out so fast. In a perfect world everyone pays this price, but in the real world where there are information problems, etc, perhaps it would be best to consider it an average price - some pay more, some less.

The supply for sex is actually &quot;kinked&quot; in at least two places (that&#039;s the term for a point at which the elasticity, or the rate at which the quantity varies with respect to the price, changes). The first place is at very low prices per sexual act/encounter. You know the kinds of suppliers who would be willing to, say, have sex without a condom for $5 more are quite desperate folks, often working to fulfill an immediate need (for food, say). The point at which suppliers become a bit more picky is when the supply curve actually more closely matches rational choice theory of &quot;as price goes up, quantity offered goes up.&quot; At extremely low prices, the desperation of the suppliers is the most obvious driver of behavior. But after the first kink, the sex market looks pretty much like any other, where suppliers weigh profit vs. fixed costs, time costs, opportunity costs for doing this kind of work, etc.

The second kink represents more about barriers of entry of really high-end sex workers. For example, if someone personally clicks with a client and all of the sex worker&#039;s expenses are taken care of by that client, part of the reason for that is who the person is - this effectively shuts out other competition. Less dramatically, you have, say, famous porn stars who also make lots of money doing escort work, because nobody else can actually be [famous porn star]. Obviously, there&#039;s a high barrier to entry of the market of folks looking to have sex with famous porn stars. Like with the other kink, suppliers who operate above this kink in the high-price range may not choose to work at lower prices, though desperation would not be their reason (probably opportunity cost is the biggest concern).

The problem with the visualization on the X-shaped perfect competition model is that it implies, when you look at it visually, that sex workers at these very high prices may not be having more sex than their lower-priced counterparts. However, remember what we are representing is the total quantity of sex supplied in the entire market.

Actually, there&#039;s this funny behavior at high wages where after a certain threshold, the number of hours spent working is actually lower than when the person had a lower wage. This is called the income effect. The reason, basically, is the person working realizes they have money now and can spend it. The demand for leisure time goes up as the wage goes up, because the benefit of taking an hour to read a book or whatever is higher than the wage received.

Needless to say, this is all a generalization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dug out my microeconomics notes for this. Incidentally, I tried to write a paper in undergrad on the economics of prostitution and was shocked at how little it was studied: I literally found one vague economic (as opposed to anthropological) source, and it had some bullshit title like &#8220;the economics of sin.&#8221; Fuck that. The Freakonomics guys have broken some unique ground in actually discussing sex markets.</p>
<p>So the model presented is the most simple &#8220;this is what a market in perfect competition&#8221; looks like, which makes a number of simplifying assumptions. Anyone who has taken Econ 101 will be familiar, but the &#8220;X&#8221; shape of the market is formed by the intersection of the supply and demand &#8220;curves,&#8221; a visualization we use to represent what all suppliers and consumers will sell/buy at various prices and quantities. The middle of the X is &#8220;market equilibrium,&#8221; where above that price producers would be willing to sell but consumers don&#8217;t want to buy, and below producers suffer shortages because consumers buy them out so fast. In a perfect world everyone pays this price, but in the real world where there are information problems, etc, perhaps it would be best to consider it an average price &#8211; some pay more, some less.</p>
<p>The supply for sex is actually &#8220;kinked&#8221; in at least two places (that&#8217;s the term for a point at which the elasticity, or the rate at which the quantity varies with respect to the price, changes). The first place is at very low prices per sexual act/encounter. You know the kinds of suppliers who would be willing to, say, have sex without a condom for $5 more are quite desperate folks, often working to fulfill an immediate need (for food, say). The point at which suppliers become a bit more picky is when the supply curve actually more closely matches rational choice theory of &#8220;as price goes up, quantity offered goes up.&#8221; At extremely low prices, the desperation of the suppliers is the most obvious driver of behavior. But after the first kink, the sex market looks pretty much like any other, where suppliers weigh profit vs. fixed costs, time costs, opportunity costs for doing this kind of work, etc.</p>
<p>The second kink represents more about barriers of entry of really high-end sex workers. For example, if someone personally clicks with a client and all of the sex worker&#8217;s expenses are taken care of by that client, part of the reason for that is who the person is &#8211; this effectively shuts out other competition. Less dramatically, you have, say, famous porn stars who also make lots of money doing escort work, because nobody else can actually be [famous porn star]. Obviously, there&#8217;s a high barrier to entry of the market of folks looking to have sex with famous porn stars. Like with the other kink, suppliers who operate above this kink in the high-price range may not choose to work at lower prices, though desperation would not be their reason (probably opportunity cost is the biggest concern).</p>
<p>The problem with the visualization on the X-shaped perfect competition model is that it implies, when you look at it visually, that sex workers at these very high prices may not be having more sex than their lower-priced counterparts. However, remember what we are representing is the total quantity of sex supplied in the entire market.</p>
<p>Actually, there&#8217;s this funny behavior at high wages where after a certain threshold, the number of hours spent working is actually lower than when the person had a lower wage. This is called the income effect. The reason, basically, is the person working realizes they have money now and can spend it. The demand for leisure time goes up as the wage goes up, because the benefit of taking an hour to read a book or whatever is higher than the wage received.</p>
<p>Needless to say, this is all a generalization.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunlover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunlover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Violet - re: The &quot;Internet Child Protection Act&quot; - Doesn&#039;t using TOR present a way around all this for U.S. based internetizens? (not that we shouldn&#039;t try to defeat it anyway...) also isn&#039;t it more effective to lobby the Senate which would have to pass it as well, rather than trying for repeal of the House bill? The House bill will die at the end of the 2011 session if not passed by the Senate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Violet &#8211; re: The &#8220;Internet Child Protection Act&#8221; &#8211; Doesn&#8217;t using TOR present a way around all this for U.S. based internetizens? (not that we shouldn&#8217;t try to defeat it anyway&#8230;) also isn&#8217;t it more effective to lobby the Senate which would have to pass it as well, rather than trying for repeal of the House bill? The House bill will die at the end of the 2011 session if not passed by the Senate.</p>
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