Comments on: The Fast And Easy Book Club: Discussion – Beauty’s Punishment

By: Vanilla Envelope

Vanilla Envelope — Fri, 24 Jun 2011 05:13:24 +0000

My wife, now ex-wife, brought these home and I couldn’t stop reading them. The thought of beauty’s chains arousing her as she moved on all fours still thrills me to this day. I remember the excitement I felt as Anne described one character’s punishment; being impaled overnight on a concrete statue. The embarrassment of being exposed for all to see along with the simultaneous aching and stimulation. I tried to introduce these to my wife but without success.

By: violet blue

violet blue — Sun, 12 Jun 2011 00:01:21 +0000

Two that are top of mind…

* What do you think Anne Rice does with erotica that is missing from other erotica?

She wrote the Beauty books – especially BP – just as she did with Interview With A Vampire and that series. They are full, complete stories, and really force you to imagine the exact mechanics of the ‘porno close-up’ you want to “see” so bad, by describing utter debauchery in non-puerile terms. Rice’s smut reader is treated like any other reader: most “porno” novels treat readers like they don’t deserve quality writing or believable characters because they’re reading about sex. She also manages to do the one thing that I see as the most important element of any piece of writing. She takes my question of “why should I care (about these people/this story)?” and gives me enough reasons on page one to get me in it.

* What makes the characters in BP believable – or not?

Totally believable. Because they are so flawed, so conflicted, so eager to surrender to pleasure, and so hopeful to find meaning.

* Would you like to see BP made into a film? Who would you cast?

YES!!!!
Beauty = Deborah Ann Woll, Emilia Clarke or Elisabeth Moss.
Prince Tristan = James Marsters, Alexander Skarsgård (I know, I know) or Aidan Turner
Queen = Kristin Bauer
Nicholas = Aidan Gillen or Nathan Fillion

By: Alison Tyler

Alison Tyler — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 21:59:24 +0000

I love the line, “never uncomfortable, but certainly startled.” I think that describes how I felt, too. I regularly reuse, I mean “return,” to the Beauty books. Here is one of my favorite passages:

The Captain stopped. he looked down into the Prince’s eyes and laid his hand on the Prince’s forehead again. “Not such a bad whipping, was it, Laurent?” he asked. The men throughout the camp laughed softly. “Except that you will receive it again at dawn, and then at noon, and then at twilight.”

XXX,
Alison

By: Jim

Jim — Sat, 11 Jun 2011 04:35:30 +0000

Violet,
How excellent of you to remind me of these stories! I first ran across them at a very good lady friend’s
house. We often shared books, and were both Anne Rice fans. I found this on her bookshelf, and four
pages later, set it down looked at her and said “You have got to tell me you have the rest of these”.
She grinned “Oh yes”. I think it took me about three days to finish them. Have reread them several times over the years.
Hmm..
Most Memorable scene- Probably the tavern orgy, with Beauty and “The Captain”
Film- Yes, if done well and not cheaply. It would have to remain true to the story.
Casting-Very hard to say, too many choices!
I don’t know that Beauty changed so much as she became more aware of who she was, and what
she desired.
I think Anne Rice concerns herself more with story, rather than some perception of what readers “want”. If the story is well told, then it will appeal to readers. Many writers of erotica seem to pander to some mythical ideal of what readers want to hear.
I was never uncomfortable, but certainly startled. Those stories were my first real look into the ideas
of dominance and submission. They opened me up to the idea that there was an almost limitless possibility to sexual relationships. They definitely made me curious about exploring new things.
Thanks for bringing back very good memories!
J : )