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		<title>By: Justine Cross</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2011/04/restless-legs-and-masturbation.html/comment-page-1#comment-12633</link>
		<dc:creator>Justine Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 19:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What ISN&#039;T improved by masturbation? lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ISN&#8217;T improved by masturbation? lol</p>
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		<title>By: viking cat</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2011/04/restless-legs-and-masturbation.html/comment-page-1#comment-12626</link>
		<dc:creator>viking cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 23:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, thank you for pointing out that the article in question was written by a journalist, not a scientist.  Bad journalism about science has done a lot of unfair damage to how non-scientists look at the field.  This science prof would love to see journalism students be required to take a minimum of college science courses-with labs--before they are allowed to go out and practice.  no &#039;rocks for jocks&#039; allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, thank you for pointing out that the article in question was written by a journalist, not a scientist.  Bad journalism about science has done a lot of unfair damage to how non-scientists look at the field.  This science prof would love to see journalism students be required to take a minimum of college science courses-with labs&#8211;before they are allowed to go out and practice.  no &#8216;rocks for jocks&#8217; allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2011/04/restless-legs-and-masturbation.html/comment-page-1#comment-12618</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 02:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless &lt;em&gt;New Scientist&lt;/em&gt; has changed a lot since I used to read it, one big problem that it has is that it&#039;s written by journalists who garble the science, not by scientists. The letters page used to consist largely of scientists complaining that their work had been inaccurately reported. So I&#039;m not surprised that you&#039;ve found dodgy &quot;science&quot; in it. It worries me that people treat it as a reliable source.

Orgasms are still good, though ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless <em>New Scientist</em> has changed a lot since I used to read it, one big problem that it has is that it&#8217;s written by journalists who garble the science, not by scientists. The letters page used to consist largely of scientists complaining that their work had been inaccurately reported. So I&#8217;m not surprised that you&#8217;ve found dodgy &#8220;science&#8221; in it. It worries me that people treat it as a reliable source.</p>
<p>Orgasms are still good, though ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: rayma</title>
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		<dc:creator>rayma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 23:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have RLS, and my experience is: An orgasm does temporarily reduce the symptoms of RLS. Key word is &quot;temporarily.&quot; Best case, RLS symptoms are lessened for 30 minutes after orgasm. Knowing that the symptoms will return shortly lessens the benefit. &quot;Must hurry up and fall asleep!&quot; Not relaxing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have RLS, and my experience is: An orgasm does temporarily reduce the symptoms of RLS. Key word is &#8220;temporarily.&#8221; Best case, RLS symptoms are lessened for 30 minutes after orgasm. Knowing that the symptoms will return shortly lessens the benefit. &#8220;Must hurry up and fall asleep!&#8221; Not relaxing.</p>
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		<title>By: Comparative Literature</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2011/04/restless-legs-and-masturbation.html/comment-page-1#comment-12603</link>
		<dc:creator>Comparative Literature</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got your Orgasm Button RIGHT HERE!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got your Orgasm Button RIGHT HERE!!!</p>
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		<title>By: stretcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>stretcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 21:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have RLS when I get really tired.

I usually find that a good round of leg stretches (IT band, ham string, quads, etc) over the space of 20 minutes or so, helps almost all the time.

But thanks for the tip, its good to have options!  Maybe more fun options as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have RLS when I get really tired.</p>
<p>I usually find that a good round of leg stretches (IT band, ham string, quads, etc) over the space of 20 minutes or so, helps almost all the time.</p>
<p>But thanks for the tip, its good to have options!  Maybe more fun options as well!</p>
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		<title>By: BBallQT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBallQT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, that comment was supposed to go with the slut shaming post topic 2 previous. My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, that comment was supposed to go with the slut shaming post topic 2 previous. My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: BBallQT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BBallQT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 14:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slutwalk Toronto took place yesterday. That an officer sent to York U to specifically talk about security after a rash of attacks around campus would say what he said, is quite telling of the kind of mentality pervasive in law enforcement.  &quot;If you don&#039;t want you car stolen you don&#039;t leave your car unlocked&quot; yeah ya but still, makes one&#039;s blood boil.  It would appear the force is leaving it at &quot;an apology&quot;.  Of course the recent G20 police state actions haven&#039;t helped.  Violet, if you have any suggestions on what education they should be receiving, (a taste of their own medicine, bent over, drawers dropped and whacked with their own batons on stage for all the students, springs to mind j/k *lol) I think the slutwalk organizers would appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slutwalk Toronto took place yesterday. That an officer sent to York U to specifically talk about security after a rash of attacks around campus would say what he said, is quite telling of the kind of mentality pervasive in law enforcement.  &#8220;If you don&#8217;t want you car stolen you don&#8217;t leave your car unlocked&#8221; yeah ya but still, makes one&#8217;s blood boil.  It would appear the force is leaving it at &#8220;an apology&#8221;.  Of course the recent G20 police state actions haven&#8217;t helped.  Violet, if you have any suggestions on what education they should be receiving, (a taste of their own medicine, bent over, drawers dropped and whacked with their own batons on stage for all the students, springs to mind j/k *lol) I think the slutwalk organizers would appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: bairdduvessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>bairdduvessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 04:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all i can say is, i have a hell of a time sleeping unless i cum once (or more) before bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all i can say is, i have a hell of a time sleeping unless i cum once (or more) before bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. Winters -- Thanks for your very thoughtful comment. Please don&#039;t take my skepticism toward the New Scientist article and the dopamine/text messaging connection to mean I don&#039;t think there should be research into brain science. I am totally pro brain science research, and I&#039;m in no way minimizing how important it is to study the brain and find new (hopefully non-pharmaceutical) treatments for things like RLS, which hugely affect many peoples&#039; quality of life (including mine).

One of the big sections I needed to cut out of my article for space was about the fact that I&#039;ve been hearing anecdotal info about RLS and orgasm outside the medical community for years. I&#039;ve personally known half a dozen people with it who said masturbation helps them. If the Brazilian article was a study of RLS and orgasm I would be completely behind that (though I don&#039;t promise not to find problems with its methodologies).

But it drives me nuts when anecdotal information from patients is treated one way...and then it gets *reported by a doctor* and suddenly it&#039;s &quot;real.&quot; The plural of anecdote is not data...but in medicine, anecdotes from a given patient or set of patients is sometimes all we have to go on. It doesn&#039;t make it *more* real just because a doctor is now repeating it.

Since there are at least tens of millions and probably billions of RLS sufferers out there (7-10% just of the U.S. and European population!) I just don&#039;t think a single anecdote should be reported in a sleep science journal or New Scientist. The experiences of patients should be shared with other patients because they&#039;re helpful, not because one doctor in Brazil says &quot;One patient reported this, and it&#039;s upheld by &#039;what we know&#039; about brain science,&quot; when it&#039;s actually not, because there haven&#039;t been enough studies of dopamine in this context -- and there should be!

Also, I have RLS myself (probably about 30% of nights), and so does my partner. I find the dopamine connection questionable only because of my own experience with orgasm -- dopamine levels appear to climb generally as men approach orgasm, but being close to orgasm but not having one appears likely to give me *serious* RLS. If I have an orgasm, I often can&#039;t sleep -- the opposite of what it is often said &quot;science shows&quot; about male brain chemistry and orgasm. My brain and my orgasms are very strange things.

Which, as you point out, is not science -- it&#039;s exactly one patient&#039;s experience. Everyone with RLS (or anything) should find what works for them, and meanwhile I definitely believe there should be more research into the science of the brain, on every level. And *that* is why I think when researchers and journalists report information with an agenda, or report information that&#039;s fragmentary at best, it runs the risk of derailing our real understanding of conditions.

However, *patients* have no such obligation of newsworthiness or scientific rigor -- the more that patients in every category share information, I think, the better. No matter how fragmentary (up to a point, I guess). Every share is a single person&#039;s experience -- and, assuming everyone is as honest as possible, the sum total is a MUCH better clinical picture no matter what the disease or condition.

Thanks again for commenting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. Winters &#8212; Thanks for your very thoughtful comment. Please don&#8217;t take my skepticism toward the New Scientist article and the dopamine/text messaging connection to mean I don&#8217;t think there should be research into brain science. I am totally pro brain science research, and I&#8217;m in no way minimizing how important it is to study the brain and find new (hopefully non-pharmaceutical) treatments for things like RLS, which hugely affect many peoples&#8217; quality of life (including mine).</p>
<p>One of the big sections I needed to cut out of my article for space was about the fact that I&#8217;ve been hearing anecdotal info about RLS and orgasm outside the medical community for years. I&#8217;ve personally known half a dozen people with it who said masturbation helps them. If the Brazilian article was a study of RLS and orgasm I would be completely behind that (though I don&#8217;t promise not to find problems with its methodologies).</p>
<p>But it drives me nuts when anecdotal information from patients is treated one way&#8230;and then it gets *reported by a doctor* and suddenly it&#8217;s &#8220;real.&#8221; The plural of anecdote is not data&#8230;but in medicine, anecdotes from a given patient or set of patients is sometimes all we have to go on. It doesn&#8217;t make it *more* real just because a doctor is now repeating it.</p>
<p>Since there are at least tens of millions and probably billions of RLS sufferers out there (7-10% just of the U.S. and European population!) I just don&#8217;t think a single anecdote should be reported in a sleep science journal or New Scientist. The experiences of patients should be shared with other patients because they&#8217;re helpful, not because one doctor in Brazil says &#8220;One patient reported this, and it&#8217;s upheld by &#8216;what we know&#8217; about brain science,&#8221; when it&#8217;s actually not, because there haven&#8217;t been enough studies of dopamine in this context &#8212; and there should be!</p>
<p>Also, I have RLS myself (probably about 30% of nights), and so does my partner. I find the dopamine connection questionable only because of my own experience with orgasm &#8212; dopamine levels appear to climb generally as men approach orgasm, but being close to orgasm but not having one appears likely to give me *serious* RLS. If I have an orgasm, I often can&#8217;t sleep &#8212; the opposite of what it is often said &#8220;science shows&#8221; about male brain chemistry and orgasm. My brain and my orgasms are very strange things.</p>
<p>Which, as you point out, is not science &#8212; it&#8217;s exactly one patient&#8217;s experience. Everyone with RLS (or anything) should find what works for them, and meanwhile I definitely believe there should be more research into the science of the brain, on every level. And *that* is why I think when researchers and journalists report information with an agenda, or report information that&#8217;s fragmentary at best, it runs the risk of derailing our real understanding of conditions.</p>
<p>However, *patients* have no such obligation of newsworthiness or scientific rigor &#8212; the more that patients in every category share information, I think, the better. No matter how fragmentary (up to a point, I guess). Every share is a single person&#8217;s experience &#8212; and, assuming everyone is as honest as possible, the sum total is a MUCH better clinical picture no matter what the disease or condition.</p>
<p>Thanks again for commenting!</p>
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		<title>By: M. Winters</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Winters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can tell you this. I have RLS. My mother and brother have it as well. It gets worse with alcohol. It can happen when I am simply at the computer or in front of the TV. It only happens at night when I am getting tired. If I do not have an orgasm, I have an 80-90% chance of having RLS symptoms at bed time. If I have an orgasm, I have a 10% chance of having symptoms. Without an orgasm, the symptoms can be so bad that I can not sleep well especially in the first couple of hours in bed. If I do have an orgasm (even with the 10% or so chance of symptoms), I will not have problems getting to sleep. This is not science. This is my experience. But I will say this, I would like science to explore it more, because it does affect my life. Often, I don&#039;t feel like masturbation and/or I am not in an appropriate setting to do so. When I&#039;m exhausted, and I just want to go to sleep, I wish I had an &quot;orgasm button&quot;. Night time sleep aides make my RLS far worse. So yeah, again, I&#039;d like science to explore this more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can tell you this. I have RLS. My mother and brother have it as well. It gets worse with alcohol. It can happen when I am simply at the computer or in front of the TV. It only happens at night when I am getting tired. If I do not have an orgasm, I have an 80-90% chance of having RLS symptoms at bed time. If I have an orgasm, I have a 10% chance of having symptoms. Without an orgasm, the symptoms can be so bad that I can not sleep well especially in the first couple of hours in bed. If I do have an orgasm (even with the 10% or so chance of symptoms), I will not have problems getting to sleep. This is not science. This is my experience. But I will say this, I would like science to explore it more, because it does affect my life. Often, I don&#8217;t feel like masturbation and/or I am not in an appropriate setting to do so. When I&#8217;m exhausted, and I just want to go to sleep, I wish I had an &#8220;orgasm button&#8221;. Night time sleep aides make my RLS far worse. So yeah, again, I&#8217;d like science to explore this more.</p>
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		<title>By: Quizzical mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quizzical mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks for looking more carefully into this and sharing what you found with us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks for looking more carefully into this and sharing what you found with us!</p>
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