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	<title>Comments on: Armchair Vegas: Twitter AVN (And A Bit of CES)</title>
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	<description>Journalist and author Violet Blue&#039;s site for sex and tech culture, accurate sex information, erotica and more.</description>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2011/01/armchair-vegas-twitter-avn-and-a-bit-of-ces.html/comment-page-1#comment-10896</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 06:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this Swedish sex toy company called LELO did the right move - exactly what violet said, they were at the personal electronics section of CES. And it was quite the success too, with Guy Kawasake tweeting about his, ehem, pleasurable experience http://twitter.com/GuyKawasaki/status/23226141493960705</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this Swedish sex toy company called LELO did the right move &#8211; exactly what violet said, they were at the personal electronics section of CES. And it was quite the success too, with Guy Kawasake tweeting about his, ehem, pleasurable experience <a href="http://twitter.com/GuyKawasaki/status/23226141493960705" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/GuyKawasaki/status/23226141493960705</a></p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
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		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ery, I totally agree with you. When I posted this I wanted to add that if I had a sex toy company, I&#039;d be going the CES route (among other tech channels) rather than go to AVN - for a lot of reasons. (I&#039;m personally generally VERY frustrated with what I see are the failures of the porn convention, but I don&#039;t want to be too negative in this post.) Frankly, I think JimmyJane and a variety of sex toy designer/manufacturers ought to be in the &quot;Personal Electronics&quot; section of CES. They don&#039;t &quot;need&quot; AVN at all. Ones that are primed for mainstream consumption and can be taken seriously, with real tech, honest packaging, and non-offensive marketing. I think that if the move goes in that direction, we&#039;ll get more of a chance of seeing the kind of innovation you&#039;re talking about. And that would be very, very exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ery, I totally agree with you. When I posted this I wanted to add that if I had a sex toy company, I&#8217;d be going the CES route (among other tech channels) rather than go to AVN &#8211; for a lot of reasons. (I&#8217;m personally generally VERY frustrated with what I see are the failures of the porn convention, but I don&#8217;t want to be too negative in this post.) Frankly, I think JimmyJane and a variety of sex toy designer/manufacturers ought to be in the &#8220;Personal Electronics&#8221; section of CES. They don&#8217;t &#8220;need&#8221; AVN at all. Ones that are primed for mainstream consumption and can be taken seriously, with real tech, honest packaging, and non-offensive marketing. I think that if the move goes in that direction, we&#8217;ll get more of a chance of seeing the kind of innovation you&#8217;re talking about. And that would be very, very exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: Viviane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Viviane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the linkage! Interesting that AVN seems smaller, whereas attendance at CES is up this year (a 6% increase from last year&#039;s CES, according to CNET). So it&#039;d make sense for the toy manufacturers to appear at CES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the linkage! Interesting that AVN seems smaller, whereas attendance at CES is up this year (a 6% increase from last year&#8217;s CES, according to CNET). So it&#8217;d make sense for the toy manufacturers to appear at CES.</p>
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		<title>By: Ery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 21:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it really so odd that sex toy makers are at CES rather than AVN?  Vibrators certainly seem more like Consumer Electronics than Adult Videos to me.

And I&#039;ve actually been thinking that the sex toy industry has a good deal to learn from the cell phone industry lately.  Sex toys are almost always output-only devices, they vibrate and squirm, and maybe even thrust or warm or squirt, but is that all there is to sex?  Don&#039;t we also want the opportunity for introspection and learning in pursuit of more and better pleasure?

Imagine if we could roll an iPhone up into a cylinder and use it as a vibrator.  How much could we learn about ourselves?  It&#039;s got accelerometers and gyroscopes to track how we move it, it&#039;s got hundreds of thousands of little capacitance sensors to track how and where we&#039;re touching it (and which I suspect could be adapted to monitor wetness as well), it&#039;s got a camera for capturing even more data about how it&#039;s positioned relative to our body (and maybe for making a show of it if we&#039;re the exhibitionist type).  And that&#039;s just the equipment that it comes with by coincidence, having never been meant as a sex toy; add a couple of cheap LEDs and the camera could do pulse oximetry to track our heart rate and genital blood flow, add a resistive touch layer and we could cross check the capacitive layer and track pressure when we squeeze.  And that&#039;s not even getting into the more advanced haptic technologies that seem to be coming in the near future.

Tie all those sensors together with the right software, and we&#039;ve got a sex toy that can adapt itself to us, and that can keep track of our actions and reactions when we&#039;re not in the right state of mind to keep track ourselves if we&#039;re doing it right.  Like, if we&#039;re looking to tease ourselves or our partner, we might set it to watch for signs of nearing release and crank down the vibrations to hold us on the edge for longer.  Or if we&#039;re playing with ourselves while looking at something sexy online, we could link our vibrator to our computer/phone/tablet via Bluetooth, and when we&#039;re done we&#039;d have a story with all of the hottest parts automatically highlighted according to our real time reactions (ditto for pictures or video).

And, if we chose to submit anonymized feedback to the makers of those stories/pictures/videos/etc, imagine what it could do for the world of porn.  Having a nice big data set of feedback directly from your users&#039; throbbing genitals telling you exactly what they all found arousing would have to make it easier to find and address niche markets with their own tastes and desires, while simultaneously guiding the mainstream market in a shift closer to what their potential customers really find hot.

And of course, there&#039;s no reason the data has to be anonymized before sharing if the we the users don&#039;t want it to be.  The exhibitionists could get a leave-in magic bullet model and have it tweet their arousal in real time if they felt like it, or play any number of other fun games at the intersection of their legs and social networking.  And couples could work to get over awkwardness and embarrassment in learning each other&#039;s favorite ways to get off by sharing their logs with each other and experimenting with what they find.

I have to wonder why this sort of thing doesn&#039;t already exist.  There are a few awkward novelty &quot;teledildonics&quot; devices, but no real attempt at mainstream penetration.  Is it just a matter of the technologies being relatively new and expensive?  Has it really not occurred to anyone to apply them this way yet?  Or is it more of a social issue?  Maybe it&#039;s something as simple as the old women and technology don&#039;t mix meme?  Or could it be there really isn&#039;t much demand for this sort of thing; perhaps curiosity is overwhelmed by some sort of fear of exposure in sexual matters like this in the population at large?  I just don&#039;t know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it really so odd that sex toy makers are at CES rather than AVN?  Vibrators certainly seem more like Consumer Electronics than Adult Videos to me.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve actually been thinking that the sex toy industry has a good deal to learn from the cell phone industry lately.  Sex toys are almost always output-only devices, they vibrate and squirm, and maybe even thrust or warm or squirt, but is that all there is to sex?  Don&#8217;t we also want the opportunity for introspection and learning in pursuit of more and better pleasure?</p>
<p>Imagine if we could roll an iPhone up into a cylinder and use it as a vibrator.  How much could we learn about ourselves?  It&#8217;s got accelerometers and gyroscopes to track how we move it, it&#8217;s got hundreds of thousands of little capacitance sensors to track how and where we&#8217;re touching it (and which I suspect could be adapted to monitor wetness as well), it&#8217;s got a camera for capturing even more data about how it&#8217;s positioned relative to our body (and maybe for making a show of it if we&#8217;re the exhibitionist type).  And that&#8217;s just the equipment that it comes with by coincidence, having never been meant as a sex toy; add a couple of cheap LEDs and the camera could do pulse oximetry to track our heart rate and genital blood flow, add a resistive touch layer and we could cross check the capacitive layer and track pressure when we squeeze.  And that&#8217;s not even getting into the more advanced haptic technologies that seem to be coming in the near future.</p>
<p>Tie all those sensors together with the right software, and we&#8217;ve got a sex toy that can adapt itself to us, and that can keep track of our actions and reactions when we&#8217;re not in the right state of mind to keep track ourselves if we&#8217;re doing it right.  Like, if we&#8217;re looking to tease ourselves or our partner, we might set it to watch for signs of nearing release and crank down the vibrations to hold us on the edge for longer.  Or if we&#8217;re playing with ourselves while looking at something sexy online, we could link our vibrator to our computer/phone/tablet via Bluetooth, and when we&#8217;re done we&#8217;d have a story with all of the hottest parts automatically highlighted according to our real time reactions (ditto for pictures or video).</p>
<p>And, if we chose to submit anonymized feedback to the makers of those stories/pictures/videos/etc, imagine what it could do for the world of porn.  Having a nice big data set of feedback directly from your users&#8217; throbbing genitals telling you exactly what they all found arousing would have to make it easier to find and address niche markets with their own tastes and desires, while simultaneously guiding the mainstream market in a shift closer to what their potential customers really find hot.</p>
<p>And of course, there&#8217;s no reason the data has to be anonymized before sharing if the we the users don&#8217;t want it to be.  The exhibitionists could get a leave-in magic bullet model and have it tweet their arousal in real time if they felt like it, or play any number of other fun games at the intersection of their legs and social networking.  And couples could work to get over awkwardness and embarrassment in learning each other&#8217;s favorite ways to get off by sharing their logs with each other and experimenting with what they find.</p>
<p>I have to wonder why this sort of thing doesn&#8217;t already exist.  There are a few awkward novelty &#8220;teledildonics&#8221; devices, but no real attempt at mainstream penetration.  Is it just a matter of the technologies being relatively new and expensive?  Has it really not occurred to anyone to apply them this way yet?  Or is it more of a social issue?  Maybe it&#8217;s something as simple as the old women and technology don&#8217;t mix meme?  Or could it be there really isn&#8217;t much demand for this sort of thing; perhaps curiosity is overwhelmed by some sort of fear of exposure in sexual matters like this in the population at large?  I just don&#8217;t know&#8230;</p>
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