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	<title>Comments on: Official: vb.ly Link Shortener Seized by Libyan Government</title>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9869</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am incredulous. And not for the same reasons you&#039;re incredulous. Do you watch, listen to or read any international news? Perhaps you&#039;ve heard of the Muslims. You know, Afghanistan, Iraq, oh, and Libya. Perhaps you&#039;ve heard of Sharia/Islamic law. Perhaps you&#039;ve heard about how it&#039;s not very sex (or women) positive.

If all of this is news to you, then I don&#039;t blame you for being shocked and stunned.

But if you&#039;ve caught even a whiff of any of the above information since you crawled out of the womb, you should not be one bit surprised, no matter how ridiculous their laws (and their interpretation) appear or whether or not they&#039;ve written them in a language you understand. If you understand that by doing business in another country (which is what buying a dot-ly domain is) you are subject to *their* laws (that&#039;s only common sense, whether or not they were explicitly included by reference in the registry&#039;s terms of service) and not the laws where you live, you should not be one bit surprised. Upset? Sure, but not surprised.

I could say other more uncharitable things about the wisdom of your choice to set up a sex-positive website/service using the ccTLD of a Muslim country, but you&#039;ve sufficiently embarrassed yourself by making the issue so public without starting off with, &quot;Oops, did we ever screw up!&quot; The same goes for anyone else using a dot-ly domain, or the ccTLD of any country. (I even avoid the ccTLD [dot-ca] of my own country because of the extra rules entailed and the fact that they can change.) In fact, it wasn&#039;t so long ago that it would have been illegal (due to UN-mandated sanctions) for you to buy a dot-ly domain.

And for those of you who think that this couldn&#039;t happen in the USA to your dot-com or dot-us domain, have a look at &quot;U.S. Uses Domain Names As New Way to Regulate the Net&quot; at http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5334/135/ , or the BBC story at http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8537771.stm about Microsoft shutting down 277 domains via a court order because of their &quot;content&quot;, so to speak.

For the record, I totally support (including financially) and am involved in sex-positive culture (and I certainly am not a supporter of Libya or Sharia law), so I&#039;m totally in favour of your sex-positive work. I&#039;m also against domain registries censoring website content ... although I do think they should be involved in the fight against spam, pulling domains that are only registered for the purpose of spamming. But whatever the motivation of the dot-ly registry (legal, moral or financial), you screwed up on your due diligence and cannot possibly paint yourself as the victim here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am incredulous. And not for the same reasons you&#8217;re incredulous. Do you watch, listen to or read any international news? Perhaps you&#8217;ve heard of the Muslims. You know, Afghanistan, Iraq, oh, and Libya. Perhaps you&#8217;ve heard of Sharia/Islamic law. Perhaps you&#8217;ve heard about how it&#8217;s not very sex (or women) positive.</p>
<p>If all of this is news to you, then I don&#8217;t blame you for being shocked and stunned.</p>
<p>But if you&#8217;ve caught even a whiff of any of the above information since you crawled out of the womb, you should not be one bit surprised, no matter how ridiculous their laws (and their interpretation) appear or whether or not they&#8217;ve written them in a language you understand. If you understand that by doing business in another country (which is what buying a dot-ly domain is) you are subject to *their* laws (that&#8217;s only common sense, whether or not they were explicitly included by reference in the registry&#8217;s terms of service) and not the laws where you live, you should not be one bit surprised. Upset? Sure, but not surprised.</p>
<p>I could say other more uncharitable things about the wisdom of your choice to set up a sex-positive website/service using the ccTLD of a Muslim country, but you&#8217;ve sufficiently embarrassed yourself by making the issue so public without starting off with, &#8220;Oops, did we ever screw up!&#8221; The same goes for anyone else using a dot-ly domain, or the ccTLD of any country. (I even avoid the ccTLD [dot-ca] of my own country because of the extra rules entailed and the fact that they can change.) In fact, it wasn&#8217;t so long ago that it would have been illegal (due to UN-mandated sanctions) for you to buy a dot-ly domain.</p>
<p>And for those of you who think that this couldn&#8217;t happen in the USA to your dot-com or dot-us domain, have a look at &#8220;U.S. Uses Domain Names As New Way to Regulate the Net&#8221; at <a href="http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5334/135/" rel="nofollow">http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5334/135/</a> , or the BBC story at <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8537771.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8537771.stm</a> about Microsoft shutting down 277 domains via a court order because of their &#8220;content&#8221;, so to speak.</p>
<p>For the record, I totally support (including financially) and am involved in sex-positive culture (and I certainly am not a supporter of Libya or Sharia law), so I&#8217;m totally in favour of your sex-positive work. I&#8217;m also against domain registries censoring website content &#8230; although I do think they should be involved in the fight against spam, pulling domains that are only registered for the purpose of spamming. But whatever the motivation of the dot-ly registry (legal, moral or financial), you screwed up on your due diligence and cannot possibly paint yourself as the victim here.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems the Libyan constitution does not grant the right to bare arms

or the pursuit of hops (hoppiness?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems the Libyan constitution does not grant the right to bare arms</p>
<p>or the pursuit of hops (hoppiness?)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Higgins</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9776</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 22:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jacquelineAM: 

You are correct that state-based registrars can enforce policies. However, the laws of Libya violate the principle of an open internet (as well as the principles of human rights). Your bias is predictable. It is not a &quot;Western&quot; conception to allow women to bear their arms - it&#039;s a &quot;Human&quot; conception. In other words, to assume that a woman isn&#039;t allowed to show her arms and to hold a bottle of alcohol is a perversion of basic human rights, if not basic human rationality. 

It does not matter the countries out of which said contention is born - what matters is that said contention is born out of rational principles. Sharia Law as a legal code is merely an expression of oppression, ideological dogma, and non-rational thinking.

Your legal code (and I&#039;m being very generous in calling it that) is nothing but a perversion of basic human sensibilities, and runs contrary to all rationality and logic. Don&#039;t believe me? Justify Sharia Law in an intelligible way without committing a logical fallacy. Exactly. You can&#039;t.

Unfortunately, Sharia Law, which is equivalent to other tribal legal systems (important for social organization based on basic survival; but ill-suited for any civil society), has been artificially elevated to a position of real authority in the Arabic world, mostly due to the economic circumstances under which the Arabic world has come to &quot;flourish.&quot; Furthermore, it has been artificially juxtaposed (by those who benefit from its widespread adoption, i.e. men of institutions) as the counterpoint to &quot;Western&quot; expression. This is not true; rather, I would argue that Sharia Law is juxtaposed to rationality proper. Because it violates nearly every rational human principle, it can&#039;t merely be in opposition to Western ideals; rather, it must naturally be in opposition to Human ideals (as most religious-based legal/ethical codes are, unfortunately).

Granted, anyone who buys a .ly domain should be subject to the laws of the country of origin of that TLD; however, when those laws expressly violate basic human rights as well as the principles of the open internet, every individual who supports either contention (or both contentions) has an absolute obligation to stand in defiance of said oppression (expressed by law). In other words, wether this particular TLD was designed to be a political statement is irrelevant. It&#039;s ownership was representative of something far greater; it was representative of basic human liberties (&quot;Western&quot; contentions aside). 

Oh, and on a final note:  do you know what is so wonderful about the internet? Unlike your country, I am afforded basic freedoms of expression, which means I have no trouble in sincerely saying &quot;fuck you and your backward ass, sexually oppressive, sickly dogmatic, and fundamentally fucked religion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jacquelineAM: </p>
<p>You are correct that state-based registrars can enforce policies. However, the laws of Libya violate the principle of an open internet (as well as the principles of human rights). Your bias is predictable. It is not a &#8220;Western&#8221; conception to allow women to bear their arms &#8211; it&#8217;s a &#8220;Human&#8221; conception. In other words, to assume that a woman isn&#8217;t allowed to show her arms and to hold a bottle of alcohol is a perversion of basic human rights, if not basic human rationality. </p>
<p>It does not matter the countries out of which said contention is born &#8211; what matters is that said contention is born out of rational principles. Sharia Law as a legal code is merely an expression of oppression, ideological dogma, and non-rational thinking.</p>
<p>Your legal code (and I&#8217;m being very generous in calling it that) is nothing but a perversion of basic human sensibilities, and runs contrary to all rationality and logic. Don&#8217;t believe me? Justify Sharia Law in an intelligible way without committing a logical fallacy. Exactly. You can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Sharia Law, which is equivalent to other tribal legal systems (important for social organization based on basic survival; but ill-suited for any civil society), has been artificially elevated to a position of real authority in the Arabic world, mostly due to the economic circumstances under which the Arabic world has come to &#8220;flourish.&#8221; Furthermore, it has been artificially juxtaposed (by those who benefit from its widespread adoption, i.e. men of institutions) as the counterpoint to &#8220;Western&#8221; expression. This is not true; rather, I would argue that Sharia Law is juxtaposed to rationality proper. Because it violates nearly every rational human principle, it can&#8217;t merely be in opposition to Western ideals; rather, it must naturally be in opposition to Human ideals (as most religious-based legal/ethical codes are, unfortunately).</p>
<p>Granted, anyone who buys a .ly domain should be subject to the laws of the country of origin of that TLD; however, when those laws expressly violate basic human rights as well as the principles of the open internet, every individual who supports either contention (or both contentions) has an absolute obligation to stand in defiance of said oppression (expressed by law). In other words, wether this particular TLD was designed to be a political statement is irrelevant. It&#8217;s ownership was representative of something far greater; it was representative of basic human liberties (&#8220;Western&#8221; contentions aside). </p>
<p>Oh, and on a final note:  do you know what is so wonderful about the internet? Unlike your country, I am afforded basic freedoms of expression, which means I have no trouble in sincerely saying &#8220;fuck you and your backward ass, sexually oppressive, sickly dogmatic, and fundamentally fucked religion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I don&#039;t think I am related to the above DK at all, I&#039;ve just been posting with my initials for years and don&#039;t want to change)
I have been using your URL shortener since you announced it and didn&#039;t know anything about all of this until I couldn&#039;t find it when I wanted to shorten something this morning. I also did not know that .ly was associated with Libya or Sharia law and am kinda disappointed that I don&#039;t know of another URL shortener without vague terms. It isn&#039;t that the URLs I am wanting to shorten are pornographic or in any way NSFW, in fact most of them are related to my blog or crafting and I just liked having a place to go for it that was not vague in the way its terms of use were written and welcomed diversity and tolerance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I don&#8217;t think I am related to the above DK at all, I&#8217;ve just been posting with my initials for years and don&#8217;t want to change)<br />
I have been using your URL shortener since you announced it and didn&#8217;t know anything about all of this until I couldn&#8217;t find it when I wanted to shorten something this morning. I also did not know that .ly was associated with Libya or Sharia law and am kinda disappointed that I don&#8217;t know of another URL shortener without vague terms. It isn&#8217;t that the URLs I am wanting to shorten are pornographic or in any way NSFW, in fact most of them are related to my blog or crafting and I just liked having a place to go for it that was not vague in the way its terms of use were written and welcomed diversity and tolerance.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Pendrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Pendrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 03:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must admit that I can&#039;t feel too sorry for them. There must be 200 TLDs to choose from, of which 180 would not have caused any  problem. So why choose a Libyan domain for any reason other than to just try and ride on the back of the success of  bit.ly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must admit that I can&#8217;t feel too sorry for them. There must be 200 TLDs to choose from, of which 180 would not have caused any  problem. So why choose a Libyan domain for any reason other than to just try and ride on the back of the success of  bit.ly?</p>
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		<title>By: jacquelineAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>jacquelineAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 01:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are perfectly correct - in almost every ccTLD there is a clause basically saying - follow the laws of our country. You broke the laws, you had a photo that is obscene to Muslims and deeply offensive in other parts of the world. If you wanted to follow US and other western  norms, laws  and culture, then maybe you should have decided to do business in the US or another country that allows pornography, scanty dress and alcohol. Many countries around the world do not. That&#039;s not a problem, it&#039;s what their culture reveres. Neither is it backward. To many of us around the world, the permissiveness of western culture, pornography etc is definitely NOT A GOOD THING.  
Libyan law is law. It doesn&#039;t matter what it&#039;s based on, Judeo-Christian beliefs or Sharia. The law is the law of the land, and the law under which people doing business in Libya must function. Libya is a sovereign country, and your post above is very disrespectful to the Government and people of Libya.
To many of the other commenters- please remember that your culture is not everyone&#039;s culture. Some of these comments are deeply racist and highly offensive. They show no consideration for differences in culture around the globe, and do not show you, your country of origin or your culture in a good light.
My $0.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are perfectly correct &#8211; in almost every ccTLD there is a clause basically saying &#8211; follow the laws of our country. You broke the laws, you had a photo that is obscene to Muslims and deeply offensive in other parts of the world. If you wanted to follow US and other western  norms, laws  and culture, then maybe you should have decided to do business in the US or another country that allows pornography, scanty dress and alcohol. Many countries around the world do not. That&#8217;s not a problem, it&#8217;s what their culture reveres. Neither is it backward. To many of us around the world, the permissiveness of western culture, pornography etc is definitely NOT A GOOD THING.<br />
Libyan law is law. It doesn&#8217;t matter what it&#8217;s based on, Judeo-Christian beliefs or Sharia. The law is the law of the land, and the law under which people doing business in Libya must function. Libya is a sovereign country, and your post above is very disrespectful to the Government and people of Libya.<br />
To many of the other commenters- please remember that your culture is not everyone&#8217;s culture. Some of these comments are deeply racist and highly offensive. They show no consideration for differences in culture around the globe, and do not show you, your country of origin or your culture in a good light.<br />
My $0.02</p>
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		<title>By: Aquarian Fool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aquarian Fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 16:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DK I would normally agree with you, but here the thing; She wasn&#039;t a guest, she was a costumer. She paid for there service then was ripped off. They took her maney, changed they&#039;re terms and left her high and dry. Without worrying or reason. She and everyone that used vb.ly got unfairly treated. And no matter what country your in, this is no way to run a business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DK I would normally agree with you, but here the thing; She wasn&#8217;t a guest, she was a costumer. She paid for there service then was ripped off. They took her maney, changed they&#8217;re terms and left her high and dry. Without worrying or reason. She and everyone that used vb.ly got unfairly treated. And no matter what country your in, this is no way to run a business.</p>
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		<title>By: c</title>
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		<dc:creator>c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 05:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry that you have lost a product and a community that you worked hard to build.

From last year&#039;s post, though:
&quot;I worry that you are being excessively optimistic about what a heavily religious government will decide that they can and shouldn’t do.&quot;

Called it... :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you have lost a product and a community that you worked hard to build.</p>
<p>From last year&#8217;s post, though:<br />
&#8220;I worry that you are being excessively optimistic about what a heavily religious government will decide that they can and shouldn’t do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Called it&#8230; :(</p>
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		<title>By: um</title>
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		<dc:creator>um</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we can finally speak with one another around the globe with no one looking and what we get is a Khadaphi&#039;s whatchamakalit censoring someone from san fran . . . .

let me say this sux 

it&#039;ll hurt peeps in Libya [an maybe labia] but naught in CHINA unless they aren&#039;t telling

the inet is subversive and we need to support the hacks who can keep the controlers at bay . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we can finally speak with one another around the globe with no one looking and what we get is a Khadaphi&#8217;s whatchamakalit censoring someone from san fran . . . .</p>
<p>let me say this sux </p>
<p>it&#8217;ll hurt peeps in Libya [an maybe labia] but naught in CHINA unless they aren&#8217;t telling</p>
<p>the inet is subversive and we need to support the hacks who can keep the controlers at bay . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Bef with an F</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9734</link>
		<dc:creator>Bef with an F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 01:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But your scadid-ness is my favorite thing about you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But your scadid-ness is my favorite thing about you!</p>
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		<title>By: foozlesprite</title>
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		<dc:creator>foozlesprite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 00:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is ridiculous.  And every article I&#039;ve seen about this (via Buzzfeed then Google) has no link to tinynibbles at all, which is kind of insulting to me considering you&#039;re being placed at the center of this shitstorm.  Keep up the good fight Violet, not everybody is as backwards as the Libyans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is ridiculous.  And every article I&#8217;ve seen about this (via Buzzfeed then Google) has no link to tinynibbles at all, which is kind of insulting to me considering you&#8217;re being placed at the center of this shitstorm.  Keep up the good fight Violet, not everybody is as backwards as the Libyans.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 00:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why you didn&#039;t anticipate this. This is Libya we&#039;re talking about, and like many Arabic nations it is quite restrictive (this is a particularly Arabic take on Islam). I don&#039;t know which exact set of restrictions Libya imposes on its citizens (and visitors) but a fairly common thread in Arabic nations is: all women must wear veils ie. only the face is allowed to be shown, alcohol is illegal, adulterers can be stoned to death (certainly in Iran), women cannot drive cars (Saudi Arabia) etc. What made you think links to pornography would be acceptable?

Just because these are links not content does not mean anything. Remember these people are not rational, they believe they have Right on their side and don&#039;t need to be rational.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you didn&#8217;t anticipate this. This is Libya we&#8217;re talking about, and like many Arabic nations it is quite restrictive (this is a particularly Arabic take on Islam). I don&#8217;t know which exact set of restrictions Libya imposes on its citizens (and visitors) but a fairly common thread in Arabic nations is: all women must wear veils ie. only the face is allowed to be shown, alcohol is illegal, adulterers can be stoned to death (certainly in Iran), women cannot drive cars (Saudi Arabia) etc. What made you think links to pornography would be acceptable?</p>
<p>Just because these are links not content does not mean anything. Remember these people are not rational, they believe they have Right on their side and don&#8217;t need to be rational.</p>
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		<title>By: Redme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 19:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what is wrong with TinyURL as a link-shortener?

Besides, we all know that Obama and Pelosi want to impose Sharia Law on God Bless The You Ess Aye.  Glenn Beck told me so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what is wrong with TinyURL as a link-shortener?</p>
<p>Besides, we all know that Obama and Pelosi want to impose Sharia Law on God Bless The You Ess Aye.  Glenn Beck told me so.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9728</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but this is hilarious: &quot;I think you’ll agree that a picture of a scandidly clad lady with some bottle in her hand isn’t exactly what most would consider decent or family friendly at the least.&quot; If he thinks you&#039;ll agree, then he doesn&#039;t think very hard...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but this is hilarious: &#8220;I think you’ll agree that a picture of a scandidly clad lady with some bottle in her hand isn’t exactly what most would consider decent or family friendly at the least.&#8221; If he thinks you&#8217;ll agree, then he doesn&#8217;t think very hard&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
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		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The situation is kind of weird, so you probably couldn&#039;t have anticipated this - but then again, you probably should have. But you shouldn&#039;t express surprise. You were doing business in Libya, and they saw what you did - whether or not you were simply linking or actually providing content - as contrary to their cultural ethos and laws. What you&#039;re essentially experiencing is a cultural conflict, because - I&#039;m guessing - they see what you did to be as disrespectful to what they see as their basic values and rights as you likely see your mission.

You&#039;re getting into dangerous territory. As positive as your message is to your audience, there&#039;s something of the &quot;ugly American&quot; in your complaint. You were doing business in another country; you were a guest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation is kind of weird, so you probably couldn&#8217;t have anticipated this &#8211; but then again, you probably should have. But you shouldn&#8217;t express surprise. You were doing business in Libya, and they saw what you did &#8211; whether or not you were simply linking or actually providing content &#8211; as contrary to their cultural ethos and laws. What you&#8217;re essentially experiencing is a cultural conflict, because &#8211; I&#8217;m guessing &#8211; they see what you did to be as disrespectful to what they see as their basic values and rights as you likely see your mission.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re getting into dangerous territory. As positive as your message is to your audience, there&#8217;s something of the &#8220;ugly American&#8221; in your complaint. You were doing business in another country; you were a guest.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnaby</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9726</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious if Ms. Blue had a reason for choosing a domain in Libya in the first place? Were you trying to see what would happen, or was it simply a convenient domain for some reason?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious if Ms. Blue had a reason for choosing a domain in Libya in the first place? Were you trying to see what would happen, or was it simply a convenient domain for some reason?</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9725</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Center for Security Policy assessment of Shariah not as off base as I had thought. http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18523.xml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Center for Security Policy assessment of Shariah not as off base as I had thought. <a href="http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18523.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18523.xml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9724</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is terrible.  And I am already looking forward to you getting this service back up and running somewhere more reasonable.  

All I can do in the meantime is wish that I had the &#039;shop skills to put a santa hat on you in that picture ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is terrible.  And I am already looking forward to you getting this service back up and running somewhere more reasonable.  </p>
<p>All I can do in the meantime is wish that I had the &#8216;shop skills to put a santa hat on you in that picture ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sembazuru</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9721</link>
		<dc:creator>Sembazuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This does suck. But, as much as I hate to say it, it is common practice for hosting sites to follow their own local laws for traffic, and it is up to the customer to investigate what those laws state. Most Arab countries have their laws shaped (if not controlled) by Sharia law (not exactly a socially enlightened code of laws). Lybia is no exception.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This does suck. But, as much as I hate to say it, it is common practice for hosting sites to follow their own local laws for traffic, and it is up to the customer to investigate what those laws state. Most Arab countries have their laws shaped (if not controlled) by Sharia law (not exactly a socially enlightened code of laws). Lybia is no exception.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9720</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny: When i click on the pic ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/violetblue/3838601847/ ) Flickr tells me: &quot;This content is unavailable to you.&quot; SafeSearch is off and i can find this on the FAQs: &quot;If your Yahoo! ID is based in Germany you are not able to view restricted content due to your local Terms of Service.&quot; ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny: When i click on the pic ( <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/violetblue/3838601847/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/violetblue/3838601847/</a> ) Flickr tells me: &#8220;This content is unavailable to you.&#8221; SafeSearch is off and i can find this on the FAQs: &#8220;If your Yahoo! ID is based in Germany you are not able to view restricted content due to your local Terms of Service.&#8221; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9718</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasha Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a shame and a shambles. I don&#039;t know of this occurring before, but I sincerely hope this it doesn&#039;t serve as a precedent for other governments to do the same. Our site is South African, and our government is also attempting to ban pornography (alongside all forms of media it disagrees with), so let us hope that this incident does not serve as a catalyst.

Let us all try and get the word out about to the free international press about this atavistic reversion to the Dark Ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a shame and a shambles. I don&#8217;t know of this occurring before, but I sincerely hope this it doesn&#8217;t serve as a precedent for other governments to do the same. Our site is South African, and our government is also attempting to ban pornography (alongside all forms of media it disagrees with), so let us hope that this incident does not serve as a catalyst.</p>
<p>Let us all try and get the word out about to the free international press about this atavistic reversion to the Dark Ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/10/official-vb-ly-link-shortener-seized-by-libyan-government.html/comment-page-1#comment-9717</link>
		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 09:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:( So that&#039;s why the links went. ome of my shortened URLS may have had ME in bare arms *shudders* Sorry if my arms are offending. They are awesomely freckly today... yay for spring!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>:( So that&#8217;s why the links went. ome of my shortened URLS may have had ME in bare arms *shudders* Sorry if my arms are offending. They are awesomely freckly today&#8230; yay for spring!</p>
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