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	<title>Comments on: My Talk at Gnomedex: On Life, Sex, Tech and Social Media</title>
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	<description>Journalist and author Violet Blue&#039;s site for sex and tech culture, accurate sex information, erotica and more.</description>
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		<title>By: Kendra Holliday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kendra Holliday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous, Derek. Sex is nothing to be ashamed of! It&#039;s not scary or wrong.

I was on a radio show the other day trying to share my sex-positive message and the female host kept interrupting me to blurt, &quot;Oh my it&#039;s hot in here! Oh dear we&#039;re really getting crazy today!&quot; and I wasn&#039;t being salacious at all, just stating facts calmly.

Keep demystifying it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous, Derek. Sex is nothing to be ashamed of! It&#8217;s not scary or wrong.</p>
<p>I was on a radio show the other day trying to share my sex-positive message and the female host kept interrupting me to blurt, &#8220;Oh my it&#8217;s hot in here! Oh dear we&#8217;re really getting crazy today!&#8221; and I wasn&#8217;t being salacious at all, just stating facts calmly.</p>
<p>Keep demystifying it!</p>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 09:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That talk actually made me cry :/ You are one hell of a lady, Violet Blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That talk actually made me cry :/ You are one hell of a lady, Violet Blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact is that you and your message are too big for Facebook. I look forward to the day when media gatekeepers are forced to acknowledge that you&#039;re right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact is that you and your message are too big for Facebook. I look forward to the day when media gatekeepers are forced to acknowledge that you&#8217;re right.</p>
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		<title>By: James S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice talk Violet:

A few things:

What do you think of Craigslist community monitoring?  Does that work as a form of harm reduction for social media?  A form of collaborative filtering in reverse?  Sensor by a vocal majority?

The &quot;They&quot; you speak of near the end of your talk in this case is the old fashioned capalisim community at work.  They&#039;re interested of course in the single minded pursuit of ROI.  They want money of course.  They&#039;re acting as sensors not because they&#039;re prudish, but because they feel that they can charge more for banner ads if they can guarantee to Coke, Pepsi, Wal-Mart, that they&#039;re ads will not be placed along &quot;offensive&quot; material.  And as Steve Jobs picked up, Disneyland sets the tone for what the perfect pricing model to advertisers are.

This was a problem that contributed to the demise of myspace.  The site could not assure advertisers that their banners would never appear above breasts or a cock, or just the work Fuck.

Several years ago there were several startups funded to solve this problem - the auto-classification and labeling (e.g G, PG-13, R ... X) of user-content.  One I remember was Keibi (who I almost took a job with).  Their pitch was we will identify offensive content....  There were a few others, Turn started that way too.

Anyway, I recall, this was 3 years ago, Offensive always meant sexual.  So for example, none of these auto-classification systems were well tuned at finding racism, misogyny, holocaust denying, political nonsense -- just anything sexual.

And so Tribe.net also went into a panic and they undoubtedly found out they could double their ad rates if they could guarantee that the user-content was Disneyland safe.

Well... enough on that.  I could go on.  But you bring up a real important point about the rise of social networking - these are not democratic spaces.  This is not BLM land.  Facebook is not a bench in Golden Gate Park.  It&#039;s private property, and they can ask you to leave for whatever reason.

Your communities though, of a non-Disneyland nature, bring the point out clearly for all.  There is no real freedom to congregate and associate.  There is no real freedom of speech.

The bottom line is: does your page, does your community, does your message, interfere with the price we charge for banner ads.  If yes, leave.

And of course this isn&#039;t shocking.  Their business is to sell ads.   Casinos do the same thing -- if you&#039;re too good a gambler, counting cards, just too lucky, they ask you leave and there&#039;s nothing you can do about it.  Like those old diner signs: &quot;we reserve the right to refuse service.&quot;
 
So thank you though for the reminder.  The social web is not democratic.  Our constitutional right do not apply to these places.  It&#039;s sex though, as usual, that points this out first.  Just like it was sex in literature in the 18th and through the 1950s that told us all what Freedom of Speech means - you can publish Ulysses.  You can publish Naked Lunch and Howl.  Someday, this might apply to the corporate controlled web.  But it looks different. 

One last snarky comment: &quot;reeling&quot; implies a negative reaction.   Typically we are &quot;realing in anger&quot;, or reeling from disappointment.  I think you mean to say your are overwhelmed, stunned and surprised...  Or plain excited happy?

-j.s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice talk Violet:</p>
<p>A few things:</p>
<p>What do you think of Craigslist community monitoring?  Does that work as a form of harm reduction for social media?  A form of collaborative filtering in reverse?  Sensor by a vocal majority?</p>
<p>The &#8220;They&#8221; you speak of near the end of your talk in this case is the old fashioned capalisim community at work.  They&#8217;re interested of course in the single minded pursuit of ROI.  They want money of course.  They&#8217;re acting as sensors not because they&#8217;re prudish, but because they feel that they can charge more for banner ads if they can guarantee to Coke, Pepsi, Wal-Mart, that they&#8217;re ads will not be placed along &#8220;offensive&#8221; material.  And as Steve Jobs picked up, Disneyland sets the tone for what the perfect pricing model to advertisers are.</p>
<p>This was a problem that contributed to the demise of myspace.  The site could not assure advertisers that their banners would never appear above breasts or a cock, or just the work Fuck.</p>
<p>Several years ago there were several startups funded to solve this problem &#8211; the auto-classification and labeling (e.g G, PG-13, R &#8230; X) of user-content.  One I remember was Keibi (who I almost took a job with).  Their pitch was we will identify offensive content&#8230;.  There were a few others, Turn started that way too.</p>
<p>Anyway, I recall, this was 3 years ago, Offensive always meant sexual.  So for example, none of these auto-classification systems were well tuned at finding racism, misogyny, holocaust denying, political nonsense &#8212; just anything sexual.</p>
<p>And so Tribe.net also went into a panic and they undoubtedly found out they could double their ad rates if they could guarantee that the user-content was Disneyland safe.</p>
<p>Well&#8230; enough on that.  I could go on.  But you bring up a real important point about the rise of social networking &#8211; these are not democratic spaces.  This is not BLM land.  Facebook is not a bench in Golden Gate Park.  It&#8217;s private property, and they can ask you to leave for whatever reason.</p>
<p>Your communities though, of a non-Disneyland nature, bring the point out clearly for all.  There is no real freedom to congregate and associate.  There is no real freedom of speech.</p>
<p>The bottom line is: does your page, does your community, does your message, interfere with the price we charge for banner ads.  If yes, leave.</p>
<p>And of course this isn&#8217;t shocking.  Their business is to sell ads.   Casinos do the same thing &#8212; if you&#8217;re too good a gambler, counting cards, just too lucky, they ask you leave and there&#8217;s nothing you can do about it.  Like those old diner signs: &#8220;we reserve the right to refuse service.&#8221;</p>
<p>So thank you though for the reminder.  The social web is not democratic.  Our constitutional right do not apply to these places.  It&#8217;s sex though, as usual, that points this out first.  Just like it was sex in literature in the 18th and through the 1950s that told us all what Freedom of Speech means &#8211; you can publish Ulysses.  You can publish Naked Lunch and Howl.  Someday, this might apply to the corporate controlled web.  But it looks different. </p>
<p>One last snarky comment: &#8220;reeling&#8221; implies a negative reaction.   Typically we are &#8220;realing in anger&#8221;, or reeling from disappointment.  I think you mean to say your are overwhelmed, stunned and surprised&#8230;  Or plain excited happy?</p>
<p>-j.s</p>
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