Comments on: Eloquent Analysis (And Seduction Secrets): Love in the Age of the Pickup Artist http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/07/eloquent-analysis-and-seduction-secrets-love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist.html Journalist and author Violet Blue's site for sex and tech culture, accurate sex information, erotica and more. Tue, 26 May 2015 17:18:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Felix Jones http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/07/eloquent-analysis-and-seduction-secrets-love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist.html/comment-page-1#comment-9119 Felix Jones Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:26:23 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=5331#comment-9119 I read the whole essay in the link, it was pretty interesting. While reading I was reminded of a line that I heard in a video game, and I thought it really applied to dating: "Nothing is true, everything is permitted." For those of us not on the VIP list: there is no lie too ridiculous, no manipulation too daring, and no facade too opaque when it comes to bedding women. I read the whole essay in the link, it was pretty interesting. While reading I was reminded of a line that I heard in a video game, and I thought it really applied to dating: “Nothing is true, everything is permitted.”
For those of us not on the VIP list: there is no lie too ridiculous, no manipulation too daring, and no facade too opaque when it comes to bedding women.

]]> By: Filip http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/07/eloquent-analysis-and-seduction-secrets-love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist.html/comment-page-1#comment-9089 Filip Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:46:57 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=5331#comment-9089 Thank You for posting this, admittedly the article managed to wring a few tears from my eyes. :-) Thank You for posting this, admittedly the article managed to wring a few tears from my eyes. :-)

]]> By: Ian Ironwood http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/07/eloquent-analysis-and-seduction-secrets-love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist.html/comment-page-1#comment-9084 Ian Ironwood Thu, 15 Jul 2010 21:15:07 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=5331#comment-9084 OK, they lie and manipulate to get what they want (sex). But is deception not a time-honored technique on the battlefield of love? How many of the women in those bars are representing themselves honestly? I've known several women who have mis-represented themselves for the purpose of getting together with a guy they were interested in -- everything from "Oh, I love NASCAR" to "Wow, I've never seen one that big before!" All's fair. OK, they lie and manipulate to get what they want (sex). But is deception not a time-honored technique on the battlefield of love? How many of the women in those bars are representing themselves honestly? I’ve known several women who have mis-represented themselves for the purpose of getting together with a guy they were interested in — everything from “Oh, I love NASCAR” to “Wow, I’ve never seen one that big before!”

All’s fair.

]]> By: Martín Castillo Morales http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/07/eloquent-analysis-and-seduction-secrets-love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist.html/comment-page-1#comment-9081 Martín Castillo Morales Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:37:51 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=5331#comment-9081 It's nice to see my picture here, thanks for posting it, and congratulations for this blog. Cheers! It’s nice to see my picture here, thanks for posting it, and congratulations for this blog.
Cheers!

]]> By: PHB http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/07/eloquent-analysis-and-seduction-secrets-love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist.html/comment-page-1#comment-9076 PHB Thu, 15 Jul 2010 04:28:59 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=5331#comment-9076 I was introduced to the 'pick up' literature after attempting to do some research on safety of online dating for a book. I asked the assistant in a book store if there were any good books to recommend on that topic. She hadn't seen any, but she thought I should read the Mystery Method and warn women about the type of men who read it. Oddly enough, I did find a connection to Internet crime. The pseudo-scientific theory behind the pickup artist stuff is mostly NLP, a sort of pseudo-psychology that is popular with some Internet criminals who specialize in social engineering. Then I started to recognize names and places in the book as associates of hackers and their haunts. The problem I have with the claims is that these people are self-admitted experts in lying and manipulation. And you can never be entirely sure who is being lied to. Some of the techniques proposed seem plausible. The rationale seems entirely implausible. I was introduced to the ‘pick up’ literature after attempting to do some research on safety of online dating for a book. I asked the assistant in a book store if there were any good books to recommend on that topic. She hadn’t seen any, but she thought I should read the Mystery Method and warn women about the type of men who read it.

Oddly enough, I did find a connection to Internet crime. The pseudo-scientific theory behind the pickup artist stuff is mostly NLP, a sort of pseudo-psychology that is popular with some Internet criminals who specialize in social engineering. Then I started to recognize names and places in the book as associates of hackers and their haunts.

The problem I have with the claims is that these people are self-admitted experts in lying and manipulation. And you can never be entirely sure who is being lied to. Some of the techniques proposed seem plausible. The rationale seems entirely implausible.

]]> By: Erika http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2010/07/eloquent-analysis-and-seduction-secrets-love-in-the-age-of-the-pickup-artist.html/comment-page-1#comment-9073 Erika Wed, 14 Jul 2010 19:50:23 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=5331#comment-9073 Thank you for posting this. A thoughtful but also thought-provoking piece. Thank you for posting this. A thoughtful but also thought-provoking piece.

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