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	<title>Comments on: calling bullshit on FOX and ABC: the &#8220;inappropriate&#8221; plus-sized woman</title>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 18:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, I&#039;m kinda thinking it was a PR stunt.  There are a few reasons why and you can read them ,a href=&quot;http://curvesmart.blogspot.com/search/label/CENSORSHIP%20OR%20PR%20HYPE%3F%20THE%20LANE%20BRYANT%20LINGERIE%20AD&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  Otherwise, if you want to see more larger models strutting their fine selves around in the glorious skin God gave them, here over to this &lt;a href=&quot;http://runwayrevolution.com/category/nsfw/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;spot&lt;/a&gt; on teh internetz.   They aren&#039;t all nude, but suggestive - hell yes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I&#8217;m kinda thinking it was a PR stunt.  There are a few reasons why and you can read them ,a href=&#8221;http://curvesmart.blogspot.com/search/label/CENSORSHIP%20OR%20PR%20HYPE%3F%20THE%20LANE%20BRYANT%20LINGERIE%20AD&#8221;&gt;here.  Otherwise, if you want to see more larger models strutting their fine selves around in the glorious skin God gave them, here over to this <a href="http://runwayrevolution.com/category/nsfw/" rel="nofollow">spot</a> on teh internetz.   They aren&#8217;t all nude, but suggestive &#8211; hell yes!</p>
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		<title>By: Dez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love plus-sized models. They look so natural and beautiful, and that&#039;s what I like about them. I don&#039;t really care what FOX or ABC think about it, but even if they won&#039;t show plus-sized models in a sexy way at all (even non-nude ones) it doesn&#039;t mean I can&#039;t still find them on the Internets! (Wake up ABC, that means I&#039;m not watching TV! Lalala, I can&#039;t hear you~)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love plus-sized models. They look so natural and beautiful, and that&#8217;s what I like about them. I don&#8217;t really care what FOX or ABC think about it, but even if they won&#8217;t show plus-sized models in a sexy way at all (even non-nude ones) it doesn&#8217;t mean I can&#8217;t still find them on the Internets! (Wake up ABC, that means I&#8217;m not watching TV! Lalala, I can&#8217;t hear you~)</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
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		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 01:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see the update above, FOX and ABC responded!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see the update above, FOX and ABC responded!</p>
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		<title>By: mina</title>
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		<dc:creator>mina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait! They won&#039;t air a commercial like that during a show that displays women wearing barely any clothes in the first place??? Wow, just wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait! They won&#8217;t air a commercial like that during a show that displays women wearing barely any clothes in the first place??? Wow, just wow.</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
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		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, thanks for pointing out the Salon blog post by Clark-Flory. I read it and could not find a justifiable reason to link to it here (and it should be noted that Tracy and I have read together in the past, are on good terms, etc.). As you mentioned in your comment, it is Flory suggesting that &quot;this is a disingenuous publicity stunt&quot; without any source for the opinion -- and in fact, the networks declined to comment. As is my experience with big media outlets (like the recent SFgate fracas) they typically don&#039;t comment on things that are true, whereas if someone (or a company) is making untrue statements they are *all over* that legally actionable shit. Believe me, and believe my lawyers.

So LB sticks by their story, and ABC mutters no comment. Salon kicks up dust but doesn&#039;t actually say anything except gosh &quot;we&#039;ll never know&quot;. I&#039;m guessing they needed a different hook for their blog post than mine.

Now, don&#039;t we wonder who Salon is citing as their &#039;via&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, thanks for pointing out the Salon blog post by Clark-Flory. I read it and could not find a justifiable reason to link to it here (and it should be noted that Tracy and I have read together in the past, are on good terms, etc.). As you mentioned in your comment, it is Flory suggesting that &#8220;this is a disingenuous publicity stunt&#8221; without any source for the opinion &#8212; and in fact, the networks declined to comment. As is my experience with big media outlets (like the recent SFgate fracas) they typically don&#8217;t comment on things that are true, whereas if someone (or a company) is making untrue statements they are *all over* that legally actionable shit. Believe me, and believe my lawyers.</p>
<p>So LB sticks by their story, and ABC mutters no comment. Salon kicks up dust but doesn&#8217;t actually say anything except gosh &#8220;we&#8217;ll never know&#8221;. I&#8217;m guessing they needed a different hook for their blog post than mine.</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t we wonder who Salon is citing as their &#8216;via&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Tinamarie Bernard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tinamarie Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is absolutely gorgeous.I&#039;m thinking the boobs at the station were jealous of her &#039;ladies&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is absolutely gorgeous.I&#8217;m thinking the boobs at the station were jealous of her &#8216;ladies&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the world is used to looking at girls with a ten year old boys figure anything with a real curve on it is considered inappropriate.

Dunno what planet I&#039;m from, but the model they used isn&#039;t in my definition of plus size.    Speaking as a &#039;plus sized&#039; man that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the world is used to looking at girls with a ten year old boys figure anything with a real curve on it is considered inappropriate.</p>
<p>Dunno what planet I&#8217;m from, but the model they used isn&#8217;t in my definition of plus size.    Speaking as a &#8216;plus sized&#8217; man that is.</p>
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		<title>By: Gigi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gigi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It behooves me that some people still don&#039;t get it: EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT!  I don&#039;t WANT to be a rail thin, bones protruding woman ever again.  I dealt with the constant hardships of being as such when I was a teenager and young adult.  Now that I am older I am happy with the body I&#039;ve developed.  I&#039;m glad I don&#039;t suffer with the issues being the size of a pencil used to bring me and as long as I am healthy, happy and confident, that&#039;s really all that matters.  Refusing to run ads like the one above without ridiculous conditions just confirms, yet again, the media is a social tether to self-loathing, self-deprivation and poor body image.  Until the general media decides to stop &quot;regulating beauty&quot; we will always suffer such traumas.  Thank you, VB, for standing up for beauty of all shapes and sizes.  
Be beautiful,
Gigi-- size 8, 36&#124;26&#124;40</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It behooves me that some people still don&#8217;t get it: EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT!  I don&#8217;t WANT to be a rail thin, bones protruding woman ever again.  I dealt with the constant hardships of being as such when I was a teenager and young adult.  Now that I am older I am happy with the body I&#8217;ve developed.  I&#8217;m glad I don&#8217;t suffer with the issues being the size of a pencil used to bring me and as long as I am healthy, happy and confident, that&#8217;s really all that matters.  Refusing to run ads like the one above without ridiculous conditions just confirms, yet again, the media is a social tether to self-loathing, self-deprivation and poor body image.  Until the general media decides to stop &#8220;regulating beauty&#8221; we will always suffer such traumas.  Thank you, VB, for standing up for beauty of all shapes and sizes.<br />
Be beautiful,<br />
Gigi&#8211; size 8, 36|26|40</p>
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		<title>By: Redme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this news.  BTW, the model in the ad is not fat at all; she is normal.

Dan is getting some nice dessert after their lunch.

Lettuce hope that the publicists get a lot more attention now that they have been dissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this news.  BTW, the model in the ad is not fat at all; she is normal.</p>
<p>Dan is getting some nice dessert after their lunch.</p>
<p>Lettuce hope that the publicists get a lot more attention now that they have been dissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Article on Salon(?) last night suggesting the story **might** be a put-up job by LB to garner more attention: the last 10 mins of this show is apparently a good slot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article on Salon(?) last night suggesting the story **might** be a put-up job by LB to garner more attention: the last 10 mins of this show is apparently a good slot?</p>
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		<title>By: Robyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this commercial to be far better than any Victoria&#039;s Secret commercial. And I thought it was decided only the nipple couldn&#039;t be shown? These networks constantly run shows where women try to show their cleavage, but of course those are the smaller women shoved into our faces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this commercial to be far better than any Victoria&#8217;s Secret commercial. And I thought it was decided only the nipple couldn&#8217;t be shown? These networks constantly run shows where women try to show their cleavage, but of course those are the smaller women shoved into our faces.</p>
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		<title>By: Cali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is NOT fat!  That is voluptuous, curvy, gorgeous and hotness personified!  I would give my right leg to look like that!  (Hey, I need my arms to type!)  These women make the usual emaciated, angry-looking lingerie models seem about as sexy as Larry King.   Who wants to fuck a hungry, pissed off bag of bones?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is NOT fat!  That is voluptuous, curvy, gorgeous and hotness personified!  I would give my right leg to look like that!  (Hey, I need my arms to type!)  These women make the usual emaciated, angry-looking lingerie models seem about as sexy as Larry King.   Who wants to fuck a hungry, pissed off bag of bones?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the Victoria&#039;s Secrets (VS) commercials are more suggestive. Perhaps it was a matter of how much more money VS pays for advertising compared to Lane Bryant? I bet you $50,000 more and the network would not have complained as much!

The Lane Bryant ad was certainly suggestive, as many commercials are these days. It is called a target audience! The woman featured in the commercial was not fat, obese, or difficult to look at. What&#039;s the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the Victoria&#8217;s Secrets (VS) commercials are more suggestive. Perhaps it was a matter of how much more money VS pays for advertising compared to Lane Bryant? I bet you $50,000 more and the network would not have complained as much!</p>
<p>The Lane Bryant ad was certainly suggestive, as many commercials are these days. It is called a target audience! The woman featured in the commercial was not fat, obese, or difficult to look at. What&#8217;s the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: LoveHoney Hella</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoveHoney Hella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the trouble is that the woman is *actually* attractive. With a gorgeous body and incredible assets. Victoria secrets models are orange with frazzled and fake hair. I get visions of plastic staring at those chicks whereas that woman actually invoked some kind of erotic sensuality.

Either that, or the idea of wearing *shock* just a bra and knickers under a coat is too much ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the trouble is that the woman is *actually* attractive. With a gorgeous body and incredible assets. Victoria secrets models are orange with frazzled and fake hair. I get visions of plastic staring at those chicks whereas that woman actually invoked some kind of erotic sensuality.</p>
<p>Either that, or the idea of wearing *shock* just a bra and knickers under a coat is too much ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Vid Tuesday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vid Tuesday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is FAR less provocative than any Victoria&#039;s Secret ad I&#039;ve seen on television. These networks will just have to come to terms with the fact that some women (in fact, the *average* woman) has a certain amount of cleavage that is larger than a size 00-2 model. Especially with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1208335,00.html?cnn=yes&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recent articles&lt;/a&gt; claiming the average bra size in the U.S. has moved from a B to a C cup, with D cups becoming more prevalent as well. Hell, I have friends who are FF and H cups. Are they inherently inappropriate, obscene or not family-friendly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is FAR less provocative than any Victoria&#8217;s Secret ad I&#8217;ve seen on television. These networks will just have to come to terms with the fact that some women (in fact, the *average* woman) has a certain amount of cleavage that is larger than a size 00-2 model. Especially with <a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1208335,00.html?cnn=yes" rel="nofollow">recent articles</a> claiming the average bra size in the U.S. has moved from a B to a C cup, with D cups becoming more prevalent as well. Hell, I have friends who are FF and H cups. Are they inherently inappropriate, obscene or not family-friendly?</p>
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