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	<title>Comments on: sex ed in the UK: actually about sex</title>
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		<title>By: Deeh</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2009/07/sex-ed-in-the-uk-actually-about-sex.html/comment-page-1#comment-6461</link>
		<dc:creator>Deeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure you can compare the US to this since it&#039;s not a national UK campaign (just local to Sheffield). At least one children&#039;s charity (Kidscape) denounced the Sheffield leaflet. Hard to judge it without seeing it. Although, from my experience of working on local materials, the wording could be down to a few people&#039;s judgement. National campaigns should use more pre-testing/feedback.

The campaign in England, &#039;Condom, essential wear&#039;, does mention enjoying sex but not in the same way as the &#039;Pleasure&#039; quote. (See www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publichealth/Healthimprovement/Sexualhealth/index.htm for policy + campaign link on right.) 

In Scotland (where health is controlled separately) a pilot around Edinburgh called &#039;Healthy Respect&#039; also talked about pleasure but not as strongly as the Sheffield leaflet. In Glasgow there&#039;s a good community project focusing on parents and young people called Talk2 (www.talk2glasgow.com). Scotland has just launched a national campaign about contraceptive choice for women but it&#039;s general, not teen-focused (www.healthscotland.com/topics/health/wish/campaigns.aspx).

The UK NHS might be a bit more progressive than the US government but sexual health consultations still include religious leaders, etc. The biggest impact recently was from commercial TV - Channel 4&#039;s &#039;The Sex Education show&#039; (http://sexperienceuk.channel4.com/sex-education). It&#039;s first series covered quite a wide range then the second focused more on young people/parents and against pornography. 

So it&#039;s still a mixed picture and, although most of these campaigns are pretty recent, the UK as a whole still has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure you can compare the US to this since it&#8217;s not a national UK campaign (just local to Sheffield). At least one children&#8217;s charity (Kidscape) denounced the Sheffield leaflet. Hard to judge it without seeing it. Although, from my experience of working on local materials, the wording could be down to a few people&#8217;s judgement. National campaigns should use more pre-testing/feedback.</p>
<p>The campaign in England, &#8216;Condom, essential wear&#8217;, does mention enjoying sex but not in the same way as the &#8216;Pleasure&#8217; quote. (See <a href="http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publichealth/Healthimprovement/Sexualhealth/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dh.gov.uk/en/Publichealth/Healthimprovement/Sexualhealth/index.htm</a> for policy + campaign link on right.) </p>
<p>In Scotland (where health is controlled separately) a pilot around Edinburgh called &#8216;Healthy Respect&#8217; also talked about pleasure but not as strongly as the Sheffield leaflet. In Glasgow there&#8217;s a good community project focusing on parents and young people called Talk2 (www.talk2glasgow.com). Scotland has just launched a national campaign about contraceptive choice for women but it&#8217;s general, not teen-focused (www.healthscotland.com/topics/health/wish/campaigns.aspx).</p>
<p>The UK NHS might be a bit more progressive than the US government but sexual health consultations still include religious leaders, etc. The biggest impact recently was from commercial TV &#8211; Channel 4&#8242;s &#8216;The Sex Education show&#8217; (<a href="http://sexperienceuk.channel4.com/sex-education" rel="nofollow">http://sexperienceuk.channel4.com/sex-education</a>). It&#8217;s first series covered quite a wide range then the second focused more on young people/parents and against pornography. </p>
<p>So it&#8217;s still a mixed picture and, although most of these campaigns are pretty recent, the UK as a whole still has the highest teen pregnancy rate in Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Elf Sternberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elf Sternberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contra Violet&#039;s statement that &quot;sex happens because it feels good,&quot; I am reminded of an important article that appeared in the New Yorker, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/03/081103fa_fact_talbot?currentPage=all&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red Sex, Blue Sex&lt;/a&gt;, in which the author shows that, for example, evangelical teenage girls are the most likely to engage in premarital sex that leads to pregnancy &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; the least likely to believe that sex will be pleasurable.    (Jewish girls, oddly enough, are the opposite: they hold off their &quot;sexual debut&quot; the longest of any group and yet they&#039;re most likely to anticipate that sex will be pleasurable when they finally do it.)

Most of them become sexually active because (now agreeing with Violet) they don&#039;t know anything about it, even as the boy, who probably knows only that little bit more about wanting tab A into slot B, is pressuring them, and they&#039;re too embarrassed to admit that they don&#039;t know anything about it to put on the brakes.

The article is a fascinating exploration of why evangelical girls get pregnant a lot, why that&#039;s actually &quot;okay&quot; (in some sense) to most evangelicals.  It&#039;s such a weird, mindfucked world, I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not part of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contra Violet&#8217;s statement that &#8220;sex happens because it feels good,&#8221; I am reminded of an important article that appeared in the New Yorker, <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/11/03/081103fa_fact_talbot?currentPage=all" rel="nofollow">Red Sex, Blue Sex</a>, in which the author shows that, for example, evangelical teenage girls are the most likely to engage in premarital sex that leads to pregnancy <i>and</i> the least likely to believe that sex will be pleasurable.    (Jewish girls, oddly enough, are the opposite: they hold off their &#8220;sexual debut&#8221; the longest of any group and yet they&#8217;re most likely to anticipate that sex will be pleasurable when they finally do it.)</p>
<p>Most of them become sexually active because (now agreeing with Violet) they don&#8217;t know anything about it, even as the boy, who probably knows only that little bit more about wanting tab A into slot B, is pressuring them, and they&#8217;re too embarrassed to admit that they don&#8217;t know anything about it to put on the brakes.</p>
<p>The article is a fascinating exploration of why evangelical girls get pregnant a lot, why that&#8217;s actually &#8220;okay&#8221; (in some sense) to most evangelicals.  It&#8217;s such a weird, mindfucked world, I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not part of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ala</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2009/07/sex-ed-in-the-uk-actually-about-sex.html/comment-page-1#comment-6439</link>
		<dc:creator>Ala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sex can be fun?? That&#039;s blasphemy. Thank goodness the Pope no longer has the power to lop off the heads of those who disagree. Well maybe he does but in a more circumspect and torturous way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sex can be fun?? That&#8217;s blasphemy. Thank goodness the Pope no longer has the power to lop off the heads of those who disagree. Well maybe he does but in a more circumspect and torturous way.</p>
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		<title>By: DJTennessee</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJTennessee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Enough of my rambling. I’ll get you some porn in a minute

Yes, I promise to read your perspectives in appropriate detail later. Right now I gotta rub one out to your friend and get back to my work. SUCH adorable nipples and birthmarks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Enough of my rambling. I’ll get you some porn in a minute</p>
<p>Yes, I promise to read your perspectives in appropriate detail later. Right now I gotta rub one out to your friend and get back to my work. SUCH adorable nipples and birthmarks!</p>
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		<title>By: casualencounters.com/blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>casualencounters.com/blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Storm in a teacup, really--no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Storm in a teacup, really&#8211;no?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Effing awesome post. I have absolutely nothing to add except fist-pumps (no pun there) and hell-yeahs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Effing awesome post. I have absolutely nothing to add except fist-pumps (no pun there) and hell-yeahs.</p>
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