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	<title>Comments on: finally, the devices that measure porn study arousal revealed</title>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYI: the CAMH and plethysmographs have been discredited.  See http://www.tsroadmap.com/info/plethysmograph.html and http://www.tsroadmap.com/info/clarke-institute.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: the CAMH and plethysmographs have been discredited.  See <a href="http://www.tsroadmap.com/info/plethysmograph.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tsroadmap.com/info/plethysmograph.html</a> and <a href="http://www.tsroadmap.com/info/clarke-institute.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.tsroadmap.com/info/clarke-institute.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: dc</title>
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		<dc:creator>dc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 07:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a semi-unrelated note.. 

Back in the 50s/60s the RCMP were using a &quot;fruit machine&quot; much in the same way (physically) to try to weed out homoesexuals from serving in the police force and civil service.

They&#039;d strap in a chair, show them gay porn and monitored them to try to detect a sexual response.

Seriously!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a semi-unrelated note.. </p>
<p>Back in the 50s/60s the RCMP were using a &#8220;fruit machine&#8221; much in the same way (physically) to try to weed out homoesexuals from serving in the police force and civil service.</p>
<p>They&#8217;d strap in a chair, show them gay porn and monitored them to try to detect a sexual response.</p>
<p>Seriously!</p>
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		<title>By: the sayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>the sayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what do women want.. 

It&#039;s like ice cream, most of the time it is the same delicious pleasure, a pleasure that you are familiar with, that you know,  a pleasure that you even crave at times..... but every now and then, you want something different bolder more... craven, decandent...and you lick your lips well in anticipation of the new treat that beholds you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what do women want.. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s like ice cream, most of the time it is the same delicious pleasure, a pleasure that you are familiar with, that you know,  a pleasure that you even crave at times&#8230;.. but every now and then, you want something different bolder more&#8230; craven, decandent&#8230;and you lick your lips well in anticipation of the new treat that beholds you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Agile Cyborg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agile Cyborg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still can&#039;t get past the irony of the researcher&#039;s obvious misconception about the &#039;primitive&#039; (as she refers to it) nature of male sex drive when she erroneously assumes that the men could be turned on by the bonobo fuck. What an over-educated nitwit.

Listen, this is going to sound blasphemous and all but if you are thirty years old with a pussy and you still don&#039;t have a clue what you want from the space between your legs I am not sure your prospective partners should really give a shit either, particularly since you are the ultimate educator of what you want and need.

Call this complex and complicated all day long. I call this a self-knowledge famine which borders on oblivious stupidity.

A woman who knows what she wants and doesn&#039;t fear the social backlash of asserting her sexuality is an emotional genius among her peers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still can&#8217;t get past the irony of the researcher&#8217;s obvious misconception about the &#8216;primitive&#8217; (as she refers to it) nature of male sex drive when she erroneously assumes that the men could be turned on by the bonobo fuck. What an over-educated nitwit.</p>
<p>Listen, this is going to sound blasphemous and all but if you are thirty years old with a pussy and you still don&#8217;t have a clue what you want from the space between your legs I am not sure your prospective partners should really give a shit either, particularly since you are the ultimate educator of what you want and need.</p>
<p>Call this complex and complicated all day long. I call this a self-knowledge famine which borders on oblivious stupidity.</p>
<p>A woman who knows what she wants and doesn&#8217;t fear the social backlash of asserting her sexuality is an emotional genius among her peers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond the intentionally-provocative and attention-grabbing title, there&#039;s material that could either be condensed into three separate, coherent articles, or expanded into a single fascinating book. Unfortunately, the author tried to tie it all together under one not-really-relevant question, and that&#039;s where it falls apart.

The purely scientific aspect of it however, is fascinating, and poses some genuinely compelling follow-up questions. Thanks for posting the link, Violet. I would have missed it otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond the intentionally-provocative and attention-grabbing title, there&#8217;s material that could either be condensed into three separate, coherent articles, or expanded into a single fascinating book. Unfortunately, the author tried to tie it all together under one not-really-relevant question, and that&#8217;s where it falls apart.</p>
<p>The purely scientific aspect of it however, is fascinating, and poses some genuinely compelling follow-up questions. Thanks for posting the link, Violet. I would have missed it otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Bonobos are just the most awesome horny little monkeys, aren’t they?&quot;

The absence of a tail suggests Bonobos are the most awesome horny little apes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Bonobos are just the most awesome horny little monkeys, aren’t they?&#8221;</p>
<p>The absence of a tail suggests Bonobos are the most awesome horny little apes.</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
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		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian and cat -- thank you so much for your comments. it&#039;s really helpful to me to get feedback like this, and I deeply appreciate it. it&#039;s making for excellent discussion around here, and I don&#039;t totally disagree with you -- in fact, cat expanded on what I liked about the piece, and Brian highlighted that we need more understanding about drive and desire (and when brain and body are not in accord, it&#039;s even more interesting). but, being me, I don&#039;t totally agree either, so I just did an update to this post that might help explain where I&#039;m coming from. let me know if this all makes sense. and Bonobos are just the most awesome horny little monkeys, aren&#039;t they?

R -- seriously, who are these engineers? I want their jobs! or at least to interview them... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian and cat &#8212; thank you so much for your comments. it&#8217;s really helpful to me to get feedback like this, and I deeply appreciate it. it&#8217;s making for excellent discussion around here, and I don&#8217;t totally disagree with you &#8212; in fact, cat expanded on what I liked about the piece, and Brian highlighted that we need more understanding about drive and desire (and when brain and body are not in accord, it&#8217;s even more interesting). but, being me, I don&#8217;t totally agree either, so I just did an update to this post that might help explain where I&#8217;m coming from. let me know if this all makes sense. and Bonobos are just the most awesome horny little monkeys, aren&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>R &#8212; seriously, who are these engineers? I want their jobs! or at least to interview them&#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Handel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Handel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all I have a lot of respect and admiration of your blog Ms. Blue. I enjoy it quite a bit. But I have to disagree with you on the assessment of the NY Times magazine article. I thought it had some great information in it most notably how much is not known about what drives sexual desire in women. And for what it&#039;s worth, I never knew anything about bonobo apes (still not sure how to pronounce the word).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I have a lot of respect and admiration of your blog Ms. Blue. I enjoy it quite a bit. But I have to disagree with you on the assessment of the NY Times magazine article. I thought it had some great information in it most notably how much is not known about what drives sexual desire in women. And for what it&#8217;s worth, I never knew anything about bonobo apes (still not sure how to pronounce the word).</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;women LIKE PORN, we want it, and it does the job, thanks&quot;

... i hate to say this, but did you read the whole article? this *isn&#039;t* just about what arouses women physically, but what women consider mentally arousing as well. about the fact that there is a distinction between these two things in women, whereas men report arousal and exhibit arousal at the same time.

i&#039;m not saying that women don&#039;t like porn, because quite obviously, women do, and, as the article indicates, woman like a wider variety of it (according to our physical reactions). i&#039;m just saying that to indicate that this article is only about porn is very misleading. it&#039;s about the fundamentals of sex, where the lines of physical and psychological desire meet. it&#039;s a comfortingly analytical look at the fact that how women feel emotionally and react physically aren&#039;t always in accord. it&#039;s nice to know that there are scientist out there trying to figure out why this is. that it isn&#039;t all &quot;just imagination&quot; on the part of women that they aren&#039;t feeling desire.

porn is wonderful, and helps get the sensitive bits lubricated most of the time, but it doesn&#039;t necessarily mean that one *feels* desire. we need to recognize that most of us are lucky if looking at sexy things makes us feel sexy, because for many people, it isn&#039;t that easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;women LIKE PORN, we want it, and it does the job, thanks&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; i hate to say this, but did you read the whole article? this *isn&#8217;t* just about what arouses women physically, but what women consider mentally arousing as well. about the fact that there is a distinction between these two things in women, whereas men report arousal and exhibit arousal at the same time.</p>
<p>i&#8217;m not saying that women don&#8217;t like porn, because quite obviously, women do, and, as the article indicates, woman like a wider variety of it (according to our physical reactions). i&#8217;m just saying that to indicate that this article is only about porn is very misleading. it&#8217;s about the fundamentals of sex, where the lines of physical and psychological desire meet. it&#8217;s a comfortingly analytical look at the fact that how women feel emotionally and react physically aren&#8217;t always in accord. it&#8217;s nice to know that there are scientist out there trying to figure out why this is. that it isn&#8217;t all &#8220;just imagination&#8221; on the part of women that they aren&#8217;t feeling desire.</p>
<p>porn is wonderful, and helps get the sensitive bits lubricated most of the time, but it doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean that one *feels* desire. we need to recognize that most of us are lucky if looking at sexy things makes us feel sexy, because for many people, it isn&#8217;t that easy.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I read stories like this, I think of the engineer who was tasked with designing these devices, and how he or she described their job to friends and family.  And, for that matter, how they phrased it on their resume.  &quot;2008: Built cock guages&quot; may get your resume posted on the WTF? bulletin board in the HR office, but it probably won&#039;t get you interviews.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I read stories like this, I think of the engineer who was tasked with designing these devices, and how he or she described their job to friends and family.  And, for that matter, how they phrased it on their resume.  &#8220;2008: Built cock guages&#8221; may get your resume posted on the WTF? bulletin board in the HR office, but it probably won&#8217;t get you interviews.</p>
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