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	<title>Comments on: kink.com deleted from wikipedia</title>
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	<description>Journalist and author Violet Blue&#039;s site for sex and tech culture, accurate sex information, erotica and more.</description>
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		<title>By: Tony Comstock</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3858</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Wiki hysteria:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/12/wikipedia_is_censored.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Wiki hysteria:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/12/wikipedia_is_censored.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/12/wikipedia_is_censored.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tony Comstock</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3812</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 19:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Marshall

Community content editing/flagging/etc is rife for vague standards, double-standards, no standards:

YouTube Removes &quot;Bill &amp; Desiree&quot; Trailer for TOS Violation
http://tinyurl.com/6cjy6b

YouTube, Not MyTube (How hysteria-induced hypocrisy hurts all of us.)
http://tinyurl.com/6ysdzl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Marshall</p>
<p>Community content editing/flagging/etc is rife for vague standards, double-standards, no standards:</p>
<p>YouTube Removes &#8220;Bill &amp; Desiree&#8221; Trailer for TOS Violation<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/6cjy6b" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6cjy6b</a></p>
<p>YouTube, Not MyTube (How hysteria-induced hypocrisy hurts all of us.)<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/6ysdzl" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6ysdzl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3811</link>
		<dc:creator>Marshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot imagine what standard was applied in this situation.  Although the entry could be cleaned up a bit, given the &quot;wealth&quot; of data about porn on Wikipedia, Kink.com is probably in the top 98% of notability and relevance. Another dumb day on the wiki.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot imagine what standard was applied in this situation.  Although the entry could be cleaned up a bit, given the &#8220;wealth&#8221; of data about porn on Wikipedia, Kink.com is probably in the top 98% of notability and relevance. Another dumb day on the wiki.</p>
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		<title>By: lifedude</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3804</link>
		<dc:creator>lifedude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like its back as of today.  The history for the page shows...
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05:39, 5 December 2008 Orangemike (Talk &#124; contribs) (13,039 bytes) (problematic, but should not have been speedily deleted; my apologies) (undo)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like its back as of today.  The history for the page shows&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>
05:39, 5 December 2008 Orangemike (Talk | contribs) (13,039 bytes) (problematic, but should not have been speedily deleted; my apologies) (undo)
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		<title>By: Tony Comstock</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3796</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the new internet reality -- wiki, flikr, youtube, etc - indexed and  fully searchable, and beholden to most reactionary elements in our society. Of course offensive at sexual imagery and ideas has special standing. Say goodbye to participating in the culture at large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the new internet reality &#8212; wiki, flikr, youtube, etc &#8211; indexed and  fully searchable, and beholden to most reactionary elements in our society. Of course offensive at sexual imagery and ideas has special standing. Say goodbye to participating in the culture at large.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3792</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh.

read this across from a horrifically erotic depiction of suicide on the moving picture device.

oddly relevant and appropriate.  doubly so given wales&#039;s background.

only one fix is appropriate, but possibly nixed technically: git clone http://wikipedia.org/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh.</p>
<p>read this across from a horrifically erotic depiction of suicide on the moving picture device.</p>
<p>oddly relevant and appropriate.  doubly so given wales&#8217;s background.</p>
<p>only one fix is appropriate, but possibly nixed technically: git clone <a href="http://wikipedia.org/" rel="nofollow">http://wikipedia.org/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3791</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or as I like to used to say, &quot;Wikipedia is the internet of the internet.&quot;

I guess I&#039;m not sure I can say it applies anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or as I like to used to say, &#8220;Wikipedia is the internet of the internet.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m not sure I can say it applies anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenJoe</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wikipedia is getting to be too PC... but there are still a lot of good, objective sysops on there... best thing to do is re-create the page... the more info and knowledge on there, the better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wikipedia is getting to be too PC&#8230; but there are still a lot of good, objective sysops on there&#8230; best thing to do is re-create the page&#8230; the more info and knowledge on there, the better&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: violet</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3789</link>
		<dc:creator>violet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>even more upsetting to me is that Wikipedia is supposed to do what old encyclopedias didn&#039;t and could not do -- *include* everything someone might want to know about as a reference (unbiased) in the real world, and grow and breathe like a living thing (much like the Internet). the founder said,

&quot;Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That&#039;s what we&#039;re doing.&quot;

and juxtapose it with the person who deleted the kink.com page who prides himself on, and brags about being a &#039;deletion king&#039;. in this context, it&#039;s not irony. it is the undoing of principle and vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>even more upsetting to me is that Wikipedia is supposed to do what old encyclopedias didn&#8217;t and could not do &#8212; *include* everything someone might want to know about as a reference (unbiased) in the real world, and grow and breathe like a living thing (much like the Internet). the founder said,</p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine a world in which every single person on the planet is given free access to the sum of all human knowledge. That&#8217;s what we&#8217;re doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>and juxtapose it with the person who deleted the kink.com page who prides himself on, and brags about being a &#8216;deletion king&#8217;. in this context, it&#8217;s not irony. it is the undoing of principle and vision.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelK</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3788</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that there are far too many people &quot;editing&quot; on Wikipedia with power issues and the like. I don&#039;t think Wikipedia is worth the wankery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that there are far too many people &#8220;editing&#8221; on Wikipedia with power issues and the like. I don&#8217;t think Wikipedia is worth the wankery.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/12/kinkcom-deleted-from-wikipedia.html/comment-page-1#comment-3787</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is particularly ironic since the person responsible for deleting it has his own reference page littered with links to Wikipedia pages which reference equally &quot;insignificant&quot; topics, as compared to Kink.com, such as:

ICon, GDH, Southern politics, Bacon number, Science fiction fandom, science fiction conventions, Society for Creative Anachronism, and a specific bookstore: Renaissance Books.

I&#039;M not suggesting these topics are not notable enough to remain in Wikipedia, but it seems inconsistent to claim Kink.com is not culturally relevant enough to include, while Renaissance Books is.

In addition, why was kink.com deleted when other, very similar entries were not? These include pages such as Abbywinters.com, Beate Uhse AG, Bel Ami, Dill Media, Gwen Media, Hancock Studios, Naked Women&#039;s Wrestling League.


Meanwhile, the kink.com page is still accessible via the Google cached page here: 

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:d446vRFTlSEJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kink.com+wikipedia+kink.com&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=1&amp;gl=us&amp;client=safari</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is particularly ironic since the person responsible for deleting it has his own reference page littered with links to Wikipedia pages which reference equally &#8220;insignificant&#8221; topics, as compared to Kink.com, such as:</p>
<p>ICon, GDH, Southern politics, Bacon number, Science fiction fandom, science fiction conventions, Society for Creative Anachronism, and a specific bookstore: Renaissance Books.</p>
<p>I&#8217;M not suggesting these topics are not notable enough to remain in Wikipedia, but it seems inconsistent to claim Kink.com is not culturally relevant enough to include, while Renaissance Books is.</p>
<p>In addition, why was kink.com deleted when other, very similar entries were not? These include pages such as Abbywinters.com, Beate Uhse AG, Bel Ami, Dill Media, Gwen Media, Hancock Studios, Naked Women&#8217;s Wrestling League.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the kink.com page is still accessible via the Google cached page here: </p>
<p><a href="http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:d446vRFTlSEJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kink.com+wikipedia+kink.com&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=1&#038;gl=us&#038;client=safari" rel="nofollow">http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:d446vRFTlSEJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kink.com+wikipedia+kink.com&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;cd=1&#038;gl=us&#038;client=safari</a></p>
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