Comments on: pity the children http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/10/pity-the-children.html Journalist and author Violet Blue's site for sex and tech culture, accurate sex information, erotica and more. Tue, 26 May 2015 17:18:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: JTM79 http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/10/pity-the-children.html/comment-page-1#comment-3179 JTM79 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:28:52 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=2158#comment-3179 Hasn't this been happening for like at least a hundred years? Think, 1920's "flappers", 1950's Rock & Roll, 1970's love hippies, etc... (granted, these are big culture-decade generalizations, but nevertheless the point is) Young Westerners are always flirting with new ways of being sexy and dangerous. Why? One reason maybe because their parents ways are gross and boring (they are too strongly associated with their parents, and it's no fun to just repeat the things your parents did). And to agree with earlier commenters, humans are sexual creatures as are ALL creatures on this earth. Dogs, cats, birds, bears, whales, dolphins, sharks, elephants, etc... name any animal you can think of. What do they all have in common? They're interested in sex. (of course, humans have the unique capability of being sexual year-round). So again, why do parents recoil when their children show some interest in something intrinsic to a human being? Why do so many people continually equate sexual interest with morality? It does not make any sense to me. Hasn’t this been happening for like at least a hundred years?

Think, 1920′s “flappers”, 1950′s Rock & Roll, 1970′s love hippies, etc…
(granted, these are big culture-decade generalizations, but nevertheless the point is) Young Westerners are always flirting with new ways of being sexy and dangerous.
Why? One reason maybe because their parents ways are gross and boring (they are too strongly associated with their parents, and it’s no fun to just repeat the things your parents did).

And to agree with earlier commenters,
humans are sexual creatures as are ALL creatures on this earth. Dogs, cats, birds, bears, whales, dolphins, sharks, elephants, etc… name any animal you can think of.
What do they all have in common? They’re interested in sex. (of course, humans have the unique capability of being sexual year-round).
So again, why do parents recoil when their children show some interest in something intrinsic to a human being? Why do so many people continually equate sexual interest with morality? It does not make any sense to me.

]]> By: Psuke Bariah http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/10/pity-the-children.html/comment-page-1#comment-3155 Psuke Bariah Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:59:45 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=2158#comment-3155 Where in the hell have these people been? This was going on the 80's! I guess they just didn't notice, because they didn't have kids themselves, or perhaps they had more sympathy for the kids than the parents... But fishnets? high heels? Corsets? That all came into my sphere of knowledge with bands, not porn. Selling through sex, not selling sex... Where in the hell have these people been? This was going on the 80′s! I guess they just didn’t notice, because they didn’t have kids themselves, or perhaps they had more sympathy for the kids than the parents…

But fishnets? high heels? Corsets? That all came into my sphere of knowledge with bands, not porn. Selling through sex, not selling sex…

]]> By: Slartibartfast http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/10/pity-the-children.html/comment-page-1#comment-3154 Slartibartfast Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:37:49 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=2158#comment-3154 "Pornification" and "raunch" are inevitable consequences of a sexually liberal culture. And yes, this meme will extend to teenage girls and children. What authors misapprehend is that navigating through a sexually free culture that advocates freedom of expression is like walking through a field of roses that are covered with thorns. In order to touch and smell the roses it is up to the individual to take personal responsibility to avoid the thorns. Unfortunately, most children do not have the maturity to do this. Unless you want a sexually repressive Orwellian totalitarian society that forbids sexual freedom, you have to live and cope with a "pornified" culture wherein kids will smell the roses. The mainstream feminist argument is that young girls are "pornified" because of negative conditioning from a patriarchical culture that incorporates objectification into their sexual narrative. This IMO is a load of BS!!!! Shifting the blame onto men provides no realistic solutions to this matter and is a stupid attempt at absolving individuals (eg. parents) of any responsibility. “Pornification” and “raunch” are inevitable consequences of a sexually liberal culture. And yes, this meme will extend to teenage girls and children. What authors misapprehend is that navigating through a sexually free culture that advocates freedom of expression is like walking through a field of roses that are covered with thorns. In order to touch and smell the roses it is up to the individual to take personal responsibility to avoid the thorns. Unfortunately, most children do not have the maturity to do this. Unless you want a sexually repressive Orwellian totalitarian society that forbids sexual freedom, you have to live and cope with a “pornified” culture wherein kids will smell the roses.

The mainstream feminist argument is that young girls are “pornified” because of negative conditioning from a patriarchical culture that incorporates objectification into their sexual narrative. This IMO is a load of BS!!!! Shifting the blame onto men provides no realistic solutions to this matter and is a stupid attempt at absolving individuals (eg. parents) of any responsibility.

]]> By: Kiki http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/10/pity-the-children.html/comment-page-1#comment-3153 Kiki Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:33:45 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=2158#comment-3153 I think talking to kids about sex is entirely necessary... and will not necessarily yield a generation of strippers. I am an American living in the Netherlands and am enjoying the openness here. I think the environment here yields a far healthier attitude about sex and sexuality. An interesting issue I just read about - somewhat related but not really - comes from Sweden, where there is a debate about whether fetishism and sadomasochism should be classifed as diseases. Maybe of interest to yall! http://www.thelocal.se/13974/20080827/ I think talking to kids about sex is entirely necessary… and will not necessarily yield a generation of strippers. I am an American living in the Netherlands and am enjoying the openness here. I think the environment here yields a far healthier attitude about sex and sexuality.

An interesting issue I just read about – somewhat related but not really – comes from Sweden, where there is a debate about whether fetishism and sadomasochism should be classifed as diseases. Maybe of interest to yall!

http://www.thelocal.se/13974/20080827/

]]> By: the Beau http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/10/pity-the-children.html/comment-page-1#comment-3152 the Beau Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:42:55 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=2158#comment-3152 Having come of age in the Reaganesque ("Just Say No"--to everything) 80's, I can say that at a teen, I envied the preceding hippy generation. Now the tide has turned the other direction and reached the extreme--I expect the correction is just around the corner. The correction will reach for its extreme also. It would be nice if we could find a nice middle ground and stay there. Having come of age in the Reaganesque (“Just Say No”–to everything) 80′s, I can say that at a teen, I envied the preceding hippy generation.

Now the tide has turned the other direction and reached the extreme–I expect the correction is just around the corner. The correction will reach for its extreme also.

It would be nice if we could find a nice middle ground and stay there.

]]> By: Dan http://www.tinynibbles.com/blogarchives/2008/10/pity-the-children.html/comment-page-1#comment-3150 Dan Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:33:32 +0000 http://www.tinynibbles.com/?p=2158#comment-3150 Biologically speaking, humans are supposed to begin mating and reproducing around the age of 14-16. The notion that children should be shielded from sex is ridiculous, and I am thankful that I had a relatively large and useful amount of sec education at school before I was 15. Prudish parents need to be realistic - kids will become sexually active when their bodies tell them to be, not when their parents permit them to be. When I have kids, I will raise them honestly, I won't lie to them or hide things from them. Young people have a right and a need to be taught about the important things in life, and sex is one of them. At the same time, I wouldn't want a 5 year old watching porn, but I think there's room for common sense in all this, it's just a shame it's not as common as it should be. Biologically speaking, humans are supposed to begin mating and reproducing around the age of 14-16. The notion that children should be shielded from sex is ridiculous, and I am thankful that I had a relatively large and useful amount of sec education at school before I was 15.

Prudish parents need to be realistic – kids will become sexually active when their bodies tell them to be, not when their parents permit them to be.

When I have kids, I will raise them honestly, I won’t lie to them or hide things from them. Young people have a right and a need to be taught about the important things in life, and sex is one of them.

At the same time, I wouldn’t want a 5 year old watching porn, but I think there’s room for common sense in all this, it’s just a shame it’s not as common as it should be.

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