We actually met there (Though I didn’t know who you were, I have to admit!) Big guy, two-color hair and a leg immobilizer, who asked about your leg ink.

(I love that rainbow clothes hanger sculpture. Who did it? It should be called “Out of the Closet,” if it isn’t already.)

I wish I could buy all the tiny nibbles commenters — and me — a drink, or some ice cream, or hand out free lube samples or something. knowwhatimean? I appreciate all the views in this thread; my marriage didn’t work, but I know ones that really do. it is what it is. I don’t know what marriage would *ever* look like for me at this point, but I bow (in a short skirt, of course) in the direction of those hot and heavy happy married couples.

now, I think I need to shake down a sex toy company for presents for tiny nibbles commenters. :D

This is a direct quote from your earlier post:

‘It doesn’t matter what you think of something like marriage’

I simply posted a view with candor not at all intended to cool hot vibes. This site can handle an alternative view, I should think, with little effort.

Equality is cool. I just derive from a rather lonely perspective that marriage is highly over-rated. Nuff said… back to the festivities.

I have no idea what you mean by that, and little interest.

The point is, bad or good, if you believe if equality for all then that includes everything, which includes marriage.

I wasn’t “minimizing your opinion”, and at no point did I say that your view doesn’t matter – I was disagreeing. I found it sad on what is plainly and obviously a rare, important and beautiful achievment in human rights you found the need to, as we say in England, piss on everyone’s chips. Try to drop the agenda and look at how happy and proud everyone else here is.

All the other comments in this thread are positive and full of love, so by all means have the last word if you need to, as I won’t be posting anything else here and further spoiling the good vibe.

Here’s hoping an NYC version can happen soon…

Almost half of all marriages will end up shot in the butt. Granted, my view isn’t the most positive one on the relational block but I am hardly generalizing in total with the preponderance of marital data supporting a good chunk of my negativity.

I can’t find the temerity within myself to minimize your human capacity to express opinion by responding with the utterly nonsensical view that ‘your’ view doesn’t matter (as you have blithely stated about mine), because, frankly, it does, to you. Or why exist at all? Why communicate if views don’t matter?

Obviously, YOUR view matters since you certainly felt strongly enough to address mine with it.

Let’s be fair here and chill with the games.

Equality for equality’s sake is fine. I’m all for it. But to fight for legal entrance into the conventional model of relational bondage seems desperate and not at all representative of the mental freeness I typically associate with gays.

Marriage is as good or bad as the people doing it, regardless of gender, sexuality or anything else. Some marriages are horrid destructive things, sure, but many are beautiful, continually suprising and rewarding journeys. I’d count mine in the second category. Maybe your marriage is the pits, Agile, but mine isn’t, so please don’t generalise. It doesn’t matter what you think of something like marriage, the point is that everyone should have the chance to do it if they want to.

And as for the Boing Boing thing.. Very upsetting and dissapointing. One expected more honourable, transparent and liberal behaviour from Boing Boing, especially since that’s the behaviour they seem to expect from everyone else. I’ll keep reading them, but they’ve gone down in my estimation in the way they acted on this.

The bottom line is, many of BoingBoing’s posts make me sad, frustrated or just bored at yet another clumsy shill for corys latest book, whereas Violet’s posts often make me happy, proud and moved.

I am of the opinion that Xeni, et al didn’t like some aspect of your lawsuit against Ada Mae Johnson. This is pure speculation, but I would be surprised if it isn’t the answer – or at a minimum, the answer they eventually give you.

California is just the start…the demographic there is younger/more liberal than the rest of the country right now, but as with science, the tides turn when holders of old theories die off (they don’t change their minds, we just outlive them). This is the issue we will all look back on and wonder why the hell it took so long!

Good on ya, lady! Good on all of ya!

Huge congratulations to San Francisco, and the whole of California! You’ve won, and you’re going to keep on winning from here. Keep on showing the rest of us how it’s supposed to be.

And of course, keep up the great blog!

Thanks for keeping such a wonderful blog.

But it’ll still be a struggle. Just (“temporarily”) transplanted to the area of the country where the Bible belt leaves welts and people beg for more. While there are some who still are deep in Mayor Dellums’s original struggle, equality for all *is* spreading.

Sometimes it’s from surprising directions. Many people are struggling with the drought and workload; they are turning to sustainable farming just to put enough food on the table. Then they turn to some successful locals who also happen to believe in equality… Amazing how people start to listen to those helping them feed their families.

(Oh, and if anyone wants to stop the coal industry from polluting and taking whole mountain caps or the tobacco industry from stealing kids’ lives, give these people some other job that pays. The only folks here making sufficient money are in coal, tobacco, or funerals. Folks are clinging to “clean coal” because they really have no options. And tobacco, well, it’s a frickin’ weed. It’s easy to grow and turns into cash to buy food, which is harder to grow or raise.)

We are winning and soon we will be in charge at the federal level! Your blog is in my top five daily must reads. But most of all thanks for introducing me to Madison Young. Chomp.