Comments on: in the Chron: wtf is feminist pr0n?!

By: Lori S.

Lori S. — Mon, 14 Apr 2008 19:25:54 +0000

slartibartfast, you’re assuming that just b/c I can see a difference between feminist and non-feminist porn, that I am giving feminist porn the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval, and that the purpose of labeling one thing “feminist” is to condemn the rest as “immoral.”

Hardly. Believe me, I get off on a lot of things that do not fall under the rubric “feminist porn.” And that’s fine — but that doesn’t mean the label has no value!

Nor am I equating quality with feminism, either. Feminist porn can be bad too (and not in a moral sense).

By: Ms Naughty

Ms Naughty — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:36:31 +0000

Perhaps the first question to ask is: WTF is “feminism?” Because even that is up for debate. For some, it means “Men suck.” For others it means “Women are trapped in a male-created society and no matter what we do, we’re all victims.” (This latter theory seems to colour a lot of debate about porn, it seems).

For me feminism means “Let’s give women the power to choose to live their lives in whatever ways seems best to them.”

Personally, I have no problem with the idea of feminist porn or with Alison’s definition, given that it pretty much lines up with my philosophy. As far as I’m concerned, I make feminist porn. Others would disagree with me, but that’s fine.

By: slartibartfast

slartibartfast — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:07:23 +0000

“I like Alison Lee’s definition — porn that’s not only aware of, but centered around women as autonomous sexual actors in pursuit of their own pleasure, either onscreen or as acknowledged consumers”

Even in mainstream porn, one could apply this definition. Can you absolutely prove that every girl on a Girls Gone Wild video does not fit this description. Personally, I can’t stand GGW but what I see here is that a line is being drawn from what is “good” moral feminist porn and “bad” immoral misogynist porn. And that is a subjective and very hazy line that will vary from person to person. Think about it. Tell an individual that it is pro-woman and okay to masturbate to Tristan Taormino but wrong and sexist to masturbate to Playboy magazine. Doesn’t it ultimately boil down to personal choice, personal freedom and civil liberties. Excluding coercive, non-consensual sex acts or child porn, then anything ought to be fair game in the privacy of his or her home. That said, coming from a guy, feminist porn is hot!!!!!

By: Lori S.

Lori S. — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:14:31 +0000

I like Alison Lee’s definition — porn that’s not only aware of, but centered around women as autonomous sexual actors in pursuit of their own pleasure, either onscreen or as acknowledged consumers.

By: B.E. Earl

B.E. Earl — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:06:22 +0000

I’ve wondered about the term before as well.

Once the world can get its head wrapped up in the fact that sex is something to be enjoyed by both women and men (in whatever combination they desire) then maybe we wouldn’t need definitions like this.

Great article, and I’m still shocked at some/most of the comments you get over there. Crazy!

By: quehanna

quehanna — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:38:30 +0000

Someone once said to me ‘the only bad wine is the kind you don’t like’. ( insert porn for wine )

Personally I get-off on whatever I happen to be viewing at the time; I tend to not worry about labels. That said I generally don’t view misogynistic type porn and prefer Ds/Fm, but there are exceptions to the ( my ) rule.

An enjoyable article, nonetheless.

I hope everyone gets to enjoy the sunshine today.

By: Dustin Lacina

Dustin Lacina — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:20:16 +0000

With that definition of Feminist Porn…I kind of wonder what the 4th wave will be like…

Will we see a trend of women labeling each other as anti-feminist for getting off to latinaabuse.com now?